At the end of the day warming is occuring, whether you like it or not....
Depends on how you define warming: a linear trend for how long period? For the last 10-12 years, it is going down / cooling. For the last 30 years, it is still positive. For many places, for 1945 to 2005 period the trend is linear - starts and ends in the equal peaks with a hole between. For the last 5000 or 10000 years, it is cooling.
Trying to fit a linear trend on a part of a sine wave (and this is like the global temperature looks like) is foolish and unscientific. It is like saying "in October it is still warming, since the linear trend for January-October is positive" - it really is, but no one plans for summer vacation on December though.
And what's happening at the moment in Greenland with it's "permanent" ice-cover?
And back in the medieval times your neck of the woods didn't have the current water consumption levels during the draught, did it? And if this draught sets to be more more lasting than just something occasional?
Like I wrote earlier, read up a little about the effects of different level of warming up. It won't harm you. Good start is "New North: The Earth in 2050." Simple understandable text, clear examples and graphs etc.
----------It is likely not 'occassional' any more than the one during the Medieval warming period. Man, as always, will adapt. With the obscene amounts of water we waste, that should not be horrendously difficult.And back in the medieval times your neck of the woods didn't have the current water consumption levels during the draught, did it? And if this draught sets to be more more lasting than just something occasional?
----------I am quite well-read on the subject, thanks. You apparently are not, as your viewpoint is solely that of the scaremongers. There are other authoritative points of view as to what the effects of warming would be from people who accept the idea that the Earth is warming. They see a natural process the biosphere is well adapted to, as it goes through this same thing every few hundred years. And as I said, we will also adapt. It is what we do, and why we have survived as a species.Like I wrote earlier, read up a little about the effects of different level of warming up. It won't harm you. Good start is "New North: The Earth in 2050." Simple understandable text, clear examples and graphs etc.
I'm not fearing it You are living in denial of it, rather or at least its effects on modern and not-so modern societies.
I take it you believe in mankinds ability to cope to the situation. Personally I am not that optimistic about it on general level, mainly because we humans are, well, humans.
Lets consider, for arguments sake, that there's actually global warming happening, at level of 1.5 degrees of C during 100 years. Like I wrote earlier, this would be the average meaning quite a huge difference between small change, the average and big change. At low levels changes would mean almost nothing, at average level depening on where it "hits", there would be quite drastic changes possible and then at high level the change and its effects would cause big problems (eg. region of west Mediterranean that suffers already from droughts and low levels of waters for both people and agriculture).
It seems that this kind of "scenario" thinking is bit like preparing for fight... be prepared and you got good chances of surviving and even winning, be un-prepared and you get your backside served to you by the opposition. So do you think there's no need to prepare at all?
Off course not as neither you nor me have a crystal ball to see what would happen in the future. But this is the lower expectation (for some part of the world) by the end of the century. And still this is not a tiny increase (even if some expectation awaits for more).But it has not been 1.5°C change
There are certain things we are already doing, anyways. The drought and ecological rules are forcing water conservation and low water usage farming methods. We are also developing more drought-tolerant crop strains. That kind of thing will continue. Even if we do keep warming, it will not happen overnight. As things change, we will adapt, as always.
The weather in California has been fantastic for some time now so if this is global warming I say keep it up!
Suck it planet Earth.
The actual title of the URL was
New study shows half of the global warming in the USA is artificial.You drop a single URL whos title is not the press release. Its like saying 50% off the price, but only if you choose the bit I want.----------I am beginning to think that you are brain-damaged. My title was "New assessment shows almost no warming in the U.S. from 1979-2008". You are trying to morph that into "no warming at all", which is plainly not what I said. And you, in the very same breath, accuse me of "misquoting". What a comically hypocritical charge!
Im sorry i forgot how you are a meteorologist and know all about long term averages and trends.
In fact, 0.15°C/decade is clearly almost no warming. That would be only a degree and half per century at that rate. It is a miniscule change. What I said was truthful and accurate, no matter how butthurt and faux outraged you get about it.
The thing is, anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, amiright?
----------I do not even know what that sentence means. English, please. I linked to the article page, and put the title of press release right below the shortened description. You are trying to somehow distort this into some great dishonesty, which itself is totally dishonest. Tell you what.... If you do not like the title, tough sh1t. Nobody cares. Whine on, and be ignored from here on out.You drop a single URL whos title is not the press release.
----------In your delusional world, I am sure that your babbling makes sense to you.Its like saying 50% off the price, but only if you choose the bit I want.
----------Did I ever make any such claim? Or are you trying to insert your lies into my mouth as 'what I said/mean'? The answer is obvious.Im sorry i forgot how you are a meteorologist and know all about long term averages and trends.
----------No, just you. That is why further drooling inanities posted by you on this thread will get all the attention they merit (none).The thing is, anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, amiright?
Actually they have submitted five papers to various journals. Braver than an opinion peice. See bottom of link.
The problem I have with global warming is that it has so much focus over something that is wildly unpredictable.
This is not physics we are talking about, where we can calculate the trajectory of an object from here to the edge of the solar system (40 years out) and get it right exactly. We don't have models or computing power now, or even in the near future, to model the climate of the earth. Yet we are making a hell of a lot of assumptions, and putting a lot of political power into something that we really don't have any idea of what is happening.
The message is wrong. Why aren't we putting all this time and effort into sustainable energy? Sustainable fishing? We will end up with a clean atmosphere but the oceans will be void of life and the forests chopped down. Bravo.