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    Default Syria crisis feeds Iraq violence, al-Qaida revival

    BAGHDAD - It was a brazen, complex attack worthy of Iraq's al-Qaida at its peak. Two bombs minutes apart killed, maimed and distracted while a team of suicide attackers blasted into a Baghdad police base to try to free jailed insurgents.

    Tuesday's high-profile assault on a anti-terrorism police unit in Baghdad was the latest in a drive by the Islamic State of Iraq, al-Qaida local affiliate, to make good on a pledge to win back ground lost in its war with American troops - its leader has even threatened to strike at the United States.

    Insurgents ultimately failed to free their prisoners, but the intended message was clear: we're back.

    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=279872

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    No shyt sherlock! That's as obvious as a chicken's ass when it feeds.
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    The paragraph about the evolving demographics of AQ-affiliated groups in Iraq is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    No shyt shylock! That's as obvious as a chicken's ass when it feeds.
    Shylock?

    I think you have confused the stories here.

    Indeed this isn't much of a surprise, the 'Arab Spring' should probably be known as the 'Sunni Spring'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    Shylock?
    lol. good call

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    Who's running AlQaeda these days? Riyadh.

    Same as always.

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    Iran’s influence in the region is waning as the Sunni-led ferment in the Arab world has left it struggling to hold on to its key asset, Syria.

    http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontL...aspx?id=279939

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88
    Syria crisis feeds Iraq violence, al-Qaida revival
    Quite the contrary : al-Qaida operatives flock to Syria as moth attracted to light to fight infidel Shia.

    There are less violent deaths in Iraq ( both from gunfire & suicide bombings ) due to lack of trained AQ operatives.

    You can't cheat statistics : as Arab Spring started ( from 2011 onward) , the number of civ deaths in Iraq dropped http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinalt View Post
    Quite the contrary : al-Qaida operatives flock to Syria as moth attracted to light to fight infidel Shia.

    There are less violent deaths in Iraq ( both from gunfire & suicide bombings ) due to lack of trained AQ operatives.

    You can't cheat statistics : as Arab Spring started ( from 2011 onward) , the number of civ deaths in Iraq dropped http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19076257

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    There should be a reason for the title "Iraq sees deadliest month in two years" ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinalt View Post
    There should be a reason for the title "Iraq sees deadliest month in two years" ...
    The article in the OP talks about this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    The article in the OP talks about this...
    There is a civil war in Syria for 1.5 years. The number of deaths in Iraq for the last 1.5 years is much less then the years before. How on earth one above the average month is a sign of "Syria crisis feeds Iraq violence" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinalt View Post
    There is a civil war in Syria for 1.5 years. The number of deaths in Iraq for the last 1.5 years is much less then the years before. How on earth one above the average month is a sign of "Syria crisis feeds Iraq violence" ?
    The July death toll is one amongst several factors that should be taken into account.

    The other factors are clearly mentioned in the article.

    You seem overly obsessed with death toll analyses of the last year and a half, yet fail to consider the evacuation of U.S forces from Iraq and the fact that the numbers of attacks and those killed seem to be rising.

    Iraq doesn't exist in a vacuum and it only makes sense that it would be affected by a sectarian conflict waged right next door as the belligerents are similar to those in Iraq and are more or less backed by the same people/entities.

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    A return to all-out sectarian violence looks unlikely, but the possible fall of Syria's Assad worries Iraqi Shi'ite leaders who fear that a hardline Sunni government could come to power instead, emboldening Sunni militants in Iraq.
    Already, Baghdad says that seasoned al-Qaida fighters are crossing the 680 km border into Syria to liaise and conduct attacks on Assad's government. That hands Islamic State of Iraq new legitimacy in the eyes of some Sunnis, experts say.
    Along Iraq's western frontier with Syria, near Albu Kamal, unrest across the border has fired up sympathies in a Sunni heartland with shared tribal and family ties.
    At the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan at the end of July, a rare communique from al-Qaida's local chieftain, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, announced a renewed jihad to recapture areas lost during the years of conflict with American forces
    a. Ramadan, usually the most dangerous time of the year...
    b. From your own article the flow is going from Iraq to Syria...which is completely in line with the notion of safe heaven (think Laos in VN, Egypt in the Libyan conflict, Honduras in the Nicarguan conflict).
    c. This trend shows a lot on the US sucesses in Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post

    Indeed this isn't much of a surprise, the 'Arab Spring' should probably be known as the 'Sunni Spring'.
    More like Salafi Palooza.

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