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    The Iraqi government's oil dispute with the Kurdish enclave reached crisis point after French oil giant Total signed an exploration deal with Kurdistan.

    The Iraqi government's oil dispute with the semiautonomous Kurdish enclave reached crisis point Tuesday after French oil giant Total signed an exploration deal with Kurdistan, an act of defiance that could affect Baghdad's ambitious plans to quadruple oil production.

    Total follows similar breakaway deals with the Kurdistan Regional Government by U.S. oil titans Exxon Mobil and Chevron. Norway's Statoil is showing interest in joining them.
    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Ene...#ixzz22PNcZ6yS

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    Good for Kurdistan, another step closer.

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    So, Syrian and Iranian Kurds are Freedom fighters, Turkish ones are - terrorists, Iraqi - business partners, all 4 of them want united Kurdistan. No wonder Turks are pissed off.

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    Having read the article....it makes more sense.

    I thought it was the breakfast cereal

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    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    Good for Kurdistan, another step closer.

    +1 I hope they get independence in my lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mousepad View Post
    So, Syrian and Iranian Kurds are Freedom fighters, Turkish ones are - terrorists, Iraqi - business partners, all 4 of them want united Kurdistan. No wonder Turks are pissed off.
    You obviously have no clue..

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    Good to see the corrupt Iraqi government lose out, and the Kurds further establish their sovereignty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Good to see the corrupt Iraqi government lose out, and the Kurds further establish their sovereignty.
    It's enough to make one sit back, take a breath and smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mousepad View Post
    So, Syrian and Iranian Kurds are Freedom fighters, Turkish ones are - terrorists, Iraqi - business partners, all 4 of them want united Kurdistan. No wonder Turks are pissed off.
    Seeing as how Iraqi Kurdistan largely stayed out and away from involvement in Iraqi insurgency and war itself, and are actually trying to better themselves AND Iraq as a whole (the Peshmerga, Kurdish ING unit's making up a large part of the guard, etc.), I wouldn't be too quick to think of them as terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combat-Master View Post
    You obviously have no clue..
    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    Seeing as how Iraqi Kurdistan largely stayed out and away from involvement in Iraqi insurgency and war itself, and are actually trying to better themselves AND Iraq as a whole (the Peshmerga, Kurdish ING unit's making up a large part of the guard, etc.), I wouldn't be too quick to think of them as terrorists.
    Really? This was posted just two days ago here.

    39 PKK terrorists killed in large-scale military operations in Şemdinli
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...3350%3Bemdinli

    Read the posts in that thread and point out where Mr. Mousepad is wrong in his estimation here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Good to see the corrupt Iraqi government lose out, and the Kurds further establish their sovereignty.
    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    It's enough to make one sit back, take a breath and smile.
    Only if you want to see another major conflict in the region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Really? This was posted just two days ago here.

    39 PKK terrorists killed in large-scale military operations in Şemdinli
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...3350%3Bemdinli

    Read the posts in that thread and point out where Mr. Mousepad is wrong in his estimation here.
    That's fine, I'm no fan of the PKK either. However, I was talking about Iraqi Kurdistan, a completely different entity from the PKK. The PKK have even been a problem there, they've been behind assassination of government officials there and armed attacks. Although a very small minority of the population become PKK insurgents, for the most part, they aren't popular in Iraqi Kurdistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sootan View Post
    Only if you want to see another major conflict in the region
    I want my brothers and sisters to be free

    Well they're more like extremely distant cousins, but still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    Seeing as how Iraqi Kurdistan largely stayed out and away from involvement in Iraqi insurgency and war itself, and are actually trying to better themselves AND Iraq as a whole (the Peshmerga, Kurdish ING unit's making up a large part of the guard, etc.), I wouldn't be too quick to think of them as terrorists.
    (1-st let me be clear about it, i personally think of Kurds with thy values as nice guys in my more or less European POV. )

    Iraqi ones - fcoz not, they started and stayed on a good guys side, even when left to fend for themselves and grossly boned between 91 and 03, now they have cozy little corner of Iraq with oil, shopping malls and western consumerism, that's good and fine while Iraqi government is weak, corrupt and incompetent, and USA more or less keeping it's eye on them, but i bet there is already bunch of hardliners in Iraq waiting for the right moment to emerge and come to power with slogan "I/We'll restore glory of Iraq and show those Kurds what's what!" - and they'll get all the popular support, in the eyes of ANY Iraqi they stealing Iraq oil and have a good time at they expense. On the opposite side, there are same Kurds with same values, BUT operating on internationally recognized soil of a NATO member, where the same methods rightfully branded them as terrorists. There are 2 pieces of "Greater Kurdistan" puzzle left - Iranian (well clearly good guys for now) and Syrian, in Syrian case, no matter who will win, he will deal with Kurds sooner or later. In the end, i pity Kurds coz White guys, as usually, use them for short terms political gains and monetary profits, making them more and more hated by local powers, and will abandon them at the moment they usefulness expire, and then it's gonna get fuking ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mousepad View Post
    but i bet there is already bunch of hardliners in Iraq waiting for the right moment to emerge and come to power with slogan "I/We'll restore glory of Iraq and show those Kurds what's what!"
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    In the end, i pity Kurds coz White guys, as usually, use them for short terms political gains and monetary profits, making them more and more hated by local powers, and will abandon them at the moment they usefulness expire, and then it's gonna get fuking ugly.
    Well, at least it seemed that the Iraqi Kurds have become wise and learned that, while it is good to stay cozy with the west, lifting themselves up (be it through trade or security measures) is the really the only way for them to survive in the long term, especially in potential case of having to fend for themselves; this vs relying on the pity of other nations like what some other Middle Eastern powers seem to like doing.
    I also strongly bet that they are having contingency plans for the scenario Arab Iraq to go against them.

    Wish them the best.

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