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    Quote Originally Posted by medo View Post
    To be honest, when PM Netanyahu talk about Amalek to Iran, it is in the same class of political treats. Iran knows, that Israel could realize such treats only by nukes, but that doesn't mean Israel want to wipe Iran off the map. Politics just talk too much.
    If the Israelis cite a biblical mandate to anihilate a people to the last man and apply it to a present day nation, it is of course a rhetorical figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medo View Post
    To be honest, when PM Netanyahu talk about Amalek to Iran, it is in the same class of political treats. Iran knows, that Israel could realize such treats only by nukes, but that doesn't mean Israel want to wipe Iran off the map. Politics just talk too much.
    "We will always remember what the Nazi Amalek did to us, and we won't forget to be prepared for the new Amalek, who is making an appearance on the stage of history and once again threatening to destroy the Jews,"

    Bibi never made a direct comparison between Iran and Amalek.

    He referred to the "Nazi Amalek" and the "New Amalek" which doesn't necessarily mean a specific nation or people but rather an ideology/mentality that wishes the destruction of the Jews.

    So no, it doesn't sit in the same class or can even be considered a direct threat in any way... no matter how much you try and grab at straws in order to make it seem that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    "We will always remember what the Nazi Amalek did to us, and we won't forget to be prepared for the new Amalek, who is making an appearance on the stage of history and once again threatening to destroy the Jews,"

    Bibi never made a direct comparison between Iran and Amalek.

    He referred to the "Nazi Amalek" and the "New Amalek" which doesn't necessarily mean a specific nation or people but rather an ideology/mentality that wishes the destruction of the Jews.

    So no, it doesn't sit in the same class or can even be considered a direct threat in any way... no matter how much you try and grab at straws in order to make it seem that way.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131403

    Netanyahu's attitude towards Iran to the traditional Jewish view of Amalek, the ultimate enemy which must be destroyed.
    It seems media wrongly interpret Netanyahu words as treat to Iran and Iran could also interpret it as a life treat. I think it only show politics should be more careful with words when talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medo View Post
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131403



    It seems media wrongly interpret Netanyahu words as treat to Iran and Iran could also interpret it as a life treat. I think it only show politics should be more careful with words when talking.
    Or perhaps people (including people in the media) should stop grasping at straws in order to push their own agendas or to create headlines.

    Ahmdinnerjacket doesn't leave much room for speculation when he talks about Israel.

    Of course that doesn't mean they'll drop an atomic bomb on Israel the day after they complete one but it does give an idea of the Iranian leadership's psyche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    Or perhaps people (including people in the media) should stop grasping at straws in order to push their own agendas or to create headlines.

    Ahmdinnerjacket doesn't leave much room for speculation when he talks about Israel.

    Of course that doesn't mean they'll drop an atomic bomb on Israel the day after they complete one but it does give an idea of the Iranian leadership's psyche.
    Exactly, thatīs the point. People, please, leave that agenda to professional. I am sure that many MP posters will be embarrassed in the coming months while looking back at their statements. And by the way, never apply your own logic while assessing situation of others. It never did work.

    Hope for the best and prepare for the worse.

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    Israel Realizes : Only USG can stop Iran regime.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...264089,00.html


    The USG has made clear its red line is nuclear weapons, not nuclear capability. Their officials are very clear to say "not allow a nuclear weapon." Israel has lobbied endlessly to get the USG to change its position to nuclear capability as the red line. Of course that won't happen.

    Israel has been advised by every relevant source inside and out of their gov that it would be foolish to give the Iran regime exactly what it wants. An ineffective strike that lets it walk out of the NPT without penalty. Talk of an Israeli strike is nonsense due to their lack of capability to actually do anything.

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    Find: Iraq -> Replace with: Iran
    Find: weapons of mass destruction -> Replace with: nuclear weapons
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    Why change something that (obviously) works?

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    Today Yediot Ahronot (one of Israel's two leading newspapers which runs Ynet ) ran an article claiming that Obama has allocated 18 months for a time frame to end diplomatic efforts and engage in a military campaign... so there's that.

    Honestly, with the amount of opinions and dates being thrown around on this subject it has reached a point where any sincere attempt to actually foresee the end of this affair or its nature is laughable.

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    Rumsfeld: Israel needn't notify US about strike



    Former US defense secretary agrees with PM Netanyahu on lack of efficient sanctions on Iran; says 'Israel's intelligence on Iran is excellent, all Israelis need to do is delay them'


    Yitzhak Benhorin

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    Rumsfeld, who served as secretary of defense during both the Ford and Bush administrations, told Fox that "Israel's intelligence on Iran is excellent." He further denied the claims that an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would not yield any results.

    "I don't think that Israel has to destroy all of Iran's nuclear capability, said Rumsfeld adding that "Iran is a sophisticated country. They must have deeply buried sites. And I'm sure the Israelis know precisely what they currently have."

    "All the Israelis need to do is delay them," the Republican official said, clarifying that Israel "wouldn't need to destroy Iran's facilities 100 percent, like they were able to do in Iraq or in Syria."

    Rumsfeld further criticized the pattern of leaks emerging from White House concerning Iran, and said that "If I were in the Israeli government, I don't think I would notify the United States government of any intent to do anything about Iran. So my guess is, given the pattern of leaks out of the White House, that any prime minister of Israel would not call the United States and give clear intentions as to what they plan to do."




    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...264412,00.html

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    Israeli officials slam Obama's 'wretched' Iran red line


    Say US position is pushing Islamic Republic to become country at brink of nuclear capability. 'Who knows when and what they'll decide,' the officials added

    Attila Somfalvi

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    Senior officials on Sunday leveled severe criticism against the US, declaring that the American position on a date for a military strike against Iran was a "wretched red line."

    "The US' stance is pushing the Iranians to become a country at the brink (of nuclear capability)," explained sources well versed in the nuclear issue. "The Americans are de facto allowing the Iranians to continue to enrich uranium and become a country at the brink. We are not prepared to allow that (to happen)."

    As reported in Yedioth Ahronoth last week, the US would only be prepared to carry out a strike against Iran in 18 month, when a "critical threshold" was crossed, and was resolutely against an Israeli strike.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...264778,00.html

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    S. Arabia: We'll intercept any IAF aircraft en route to Iran


    US officials transmit message from Riyadh saying any Israeli aircraft crossing its airspace en route to Iran will be shot down. Israeli officials claim Saudi threat is yet another American attempt to foil strike


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    Senior Israeli officials have claimed that the Americans are leveraging the Saudi threat in an attempt to dissuade Israel from launching a unilateral offensive on Iran's nuclear facilities. Some sources estimate that Saudi Arabia, which is equipped with American-made fighter jets, would have allowed Israel to cross its airspace if the latter would have coordinated its military operation with the White House.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...266427,00.html

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