The growing militarization of civilian police

[kamazz]

This is a scary and dangerous trend that has been happening for last 15 years, local police forces are growing in militarization, both equipment and tactics, which often results in killing of innocent civilians, as well as infringement on our freedoms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1PTcLhtTZw

the Atlantic article on this ugly phenomenon,

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...police/248047/

[JCR]

Dis gon be gud.

You dirty commie you

[Kunal Biswas]

which often results in killing of innocent civilians, as well as infringement on our freedoms.

Just to point out world became more dangerous place then before too..

We have terrorism both Internal & external..

Thieves and local thugs with sub-machine guns..

Criminal Gangs with AR..

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If Police are not well equipped they will be overrun and moral among them will go down..

This is universal and applicable to all polices forces in the world..

[Corrupt]

Just to point out world became more dangerous place then before too..

We've put up with criminals and terrorism for decades. It's not a new thing.

If Police are not well equipped they will be overrun and moral among them will go down..

Well equipped and militarised are two very different things. I can't comment on what it's like overseas, but I'd certainly be against increasing "militarisation" of police here.

[Kunal Biswas]

[Corrupt]

Yes. That video is a totally realistic recreation of that event and shows how regularly one or two criminals take on half a batallion of police officers.

[Kunal Biswas]

We've put up with criminals and terrorism for decades. It's not a new thing.

Well equipped and militarised are two very different things. I can't comment on what it's like overseas, but I'd certainly be against increasing "militarisation" of police here.

I dont think UK had anything like London bombing recently before, I doubt over the claim decades, Besides UK police are well armed..

Are you saying police undergo military training like Regulars in Army ? then i can call it Militarization..

Yes. That video is a totally realistic recreation of that event and shows how regularly one or two criminals take on half a batallion of police officers.

True story ..

[junglejim]

Police, should invest more on technology to apprehend criminals and make sure crimes dont go unpunished. It is a downward spiral when cops start thinking that the solution to criminality, is firepower.

[Clear_blues]

gonna grab my ACU print popcorn and watch the show this time

[Steak-Sauce]

True story ..

I think Corrupt does know this is indeed a true story, yet he wants to tell you that such a situation, in which 400 LEOs are necessary to battle two armed and armored bankrobbers, does not occur every single day.

[Corrupt]

I dont think UK had anything like London bombing recently before, I doubt over the claim decades,

Bomb attacks against the civilian populations are not a new, or original form of terrorism.
1996 Manchester Bombing
1984 Brighton Hotel Bombing
1982 Hyde Park and Regents park Bombing
1974 Birmingham Pub Bombing
1974 Guildford Pub Bombing
1972 Bloody Friday Bombing
1972 La Mon Resaurant Bombing
1972 Abercorn Restaurant Bombing

Besides UK police are well armed..

They don't even carry guns.

Are you saying police undergo military training like Regulars in Army ? then i can call it Militarization..

"Militarisation" of police generally refers to a trend away from a civilian police force, to an almost paramilitary organisaton. More military style uniforms, greater issueing of weapons etc.

[Steak-Sauce]

I dont think UK had anything like London bombing recently before, I doubt over the claim decades, Besides UK police are well armed..

PS: Look up how the IRA (in all its forms) conducted terror attacks, including large scale bombings in London itself and against high-ranking government members.

Hm, beaten by seconds. Gold for Corrupt, well done.

PPS: Speaking of "terrorism" and "decades", you may want to check the following links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronol...281970-1979%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronol...281980-1989%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronol...281990-1999%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronol...282000-2010%29

Re: 1993 Bishopsgate Bombing:

[Leaper]

Police, should invest more on technology to apprehend criminals and make sure crimes dont go unpunished. It is a downward spiral when cops start thinking that the solution to criminality, is firepower.

See? This is why I'm voting for Jim in the next election!

[KoTeMoRe]

The only way one´s police would be less militaristic, it is for the said country to be a dictatorship (or Great Britain). I´d go with the first option.

Edit: there is no way, *more* technology would solve crime, if the said technology has to comply with privacy legislation and is not applied everywhere. The whole give us more means, is a myth.

[Mordoror]

Just to point out world became more dangerous place then before too..

Not a all
The media frenzy is one thing, statistics tell otherwise

We have terrorism both Internal & external..

We all already had after WWII and even far way before (preWWI terrorism was even worse)

Thieves and local thugs with sub-machine guns..

Because before they were using water pistols ?

Criminal Gangs with AR..

Always have been (well always since the invention of AR and AK)


Corrupt said it before me but all those things existed way before today. The only things is that each event is bloated by the MSM (is it appropriate or not is another discussion)
Another thing is that thugs are (at least in Europe) younger, more violent and more intended to use spray and pray
Old mafias had some internal and external rules. With the new organized criminality, it is not the case anymore. But that' specific to the west. Go tell to a south american if violence has somehow changed in form and level the last 20-30 years.