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    Default Obama Administration trying to suppress military vote in Ohio

    Here we go again. The party that wants anybody to get the chance to vote, including non-citizens, again wants to deny American military personnel the chance to vote (remember Florida). Supposedly the reason is that giving them more time to get their vote in is somehow unfair to non-military voters.

    Some may not like the link source but the story is true and can be fact checked.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ilitary-voting

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    Living in Ohio, it is true........

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    Just an ingenuous question by an uncomprehending man - why would military personnel not on deployment need more time to vote? Frankly, I don't get it.
    What about postal vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Just an ingenuous question by an uncomprehending man - why would military personnel not on deployment need more time to vote? Frankly, I don't get it.
    What about postal vote?
    Look at the source, then take 100kg of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Just an ingenuous question by an uncomprehending man - why would military personnel not on deployment need more time to vote? Frankly, I don't get it.
    What about postal vote?
    Depending on a soldier's job description it might be very difficult for them to get to the polls. I know when I was serving as my commander's gunner in HQ platoon in an Infantry company that my personal time was very little during the work day. While everyone else was at lunch from 1130-1300, my squad and I were usually down at the motorpool working on vehicles or rummaging through shipping containers trying to find some random piece of equipment that hadn't been used in 15 years.

    Later on when I became an assistant armorer it was even worse. Eventually when I made to a line platoon I was able to take lunch breaks and what not like the rest of the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Zach of R. View Post
    Depending on a soldier's job description it might be very difficult for them to get to the polls. I know when I was serving as my commander's gunner in HQ platoon in an Infantry company that my personal time was very little during the work day. While everyone else was at lunch from 1130-1300, my squad and I were usually down at the motorpool working on vehicles or rummaging through shipping containers trying to find some random piece of equipment that hadn't been used in 15 years.

    Later on when I became an assistant armorer it was even worse. Eventually when I made to a line platoon I was able to take lunch breaks and what not like the rest of the company.
    I was with logistics in the German Army and we had an awful lot to do getting stuff moved to all over the nation or even to the Balkans. Nonetheless I was able to cast my vote in several elections that took place during my tour of duty. When I knew I wouldn't make it to the polling station on that day I simply used the option of postal vote.

    I thought postal vote is possible in the United States, too?

    I still don't see why service members should have three days to vote while all other citizens have not (soldiers aren't the only citizens with crappy working hours, by the way). I don't see anything condemnable about plans to repeal this procedure either.

    Seems like petty electioneering bluster to me.

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    The ghost breitbart gasbag strikes again !

    http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/07/18/...y-voting-days/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indianatheart View Post
    The ghost breitbart gasbag strikes again !

    http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/07/18/...y-voting-days/
    This sounds a whole lot different. Who would've thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujo2000 View Post
    Look at the source, then take 100kg of salt.
    Since you never served you don't have a clue as to what your posting about.

    FTX- Field Training Excercises that go on for weeks on end and can be happening during election day. They dont work Mon-Fri 9AM to 5PM like you do




    In my case we requested Absentee Ballots from NY State in May 2004 for the 2004 General election. Our Ballots arrived in 2005 in Baghdad. Now go one tell me how we had all this time to vote while training for deployment, and deploying to combat.

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    There have been problem in the past with getting absentee ballots and the military votes even being counted on time. I think this is a good idea and they should also extend this to DOD civillians and contractors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Since you never served you don't have a clue as to what your posting about.

    FTX- Field Training Excercises that go on for weeks on end and can be happening during election day. They dont work Mon-Fri 9AM to 5PM like you do




    In my case we requested Absentee Ballots from NY State in May 2004 for the 2004 General election. Our Ballots arrived in 2005 in Baghdad. Now go one tell me how we had all this time to vote while training for deployment, and deploying to combat.
    sounds like a legitimate problem. How should we solve this problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    In my case we requested Absentee Ballots from NY State in May 2004 for the 2004 General election. Our Ballots arrived in 2005 in Baghdad. Now go one tell me how we had all this time to vote while training for deployment, and deploying to combat.
    If that was the case it seems a more far-reaching reform of the whole procedure is in order (more far-reaching than a three day special voting period for military personnel, that is). I wonder when ordinary citizens got their postal vote documents for that election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujo2000 View Post
    Look at the source, then take 100kg of salt.
    Real intelligent post.


    Quote Originally Posted by tommyd View Post
    Slight of hand. Sue on one principal with the intent of denying the military the vote because they vote predominately republican. Not too difficult to see through that one. Or maybe not for some.


    Quote Originally Posted by plato View Post
    sounds like a legitimate problem. How should we solve this problem?
    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    If that was the case it seems a more far-reaching reform of the whole procedure is in order (more far-reaching than a three day special voting period for military personnel, that is). I wonder when ordinary citizens got their postal vote documents for that election?
    You're right. The three day extra period is just a start. Military personnel needs as much time as possible to get their votes in and the military needs to do what is necessary to expedite the delivery of the ballots and get them back ASAP.

    Do you really think that sending them across a state is slower than across the world? Sorry but that sounds like a ridiculous question.

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    Postal voting should not be that hard to organise, the Irish military for example were able to arrange for their overseas personnel to take part in voting at whatever location they were stationed, the majority of votes mainly in South Lebanon, being sent out about 10 days before the National ballot (and they were returned in time for counting).

    I did a few stints working to sort the postal ballots prior to being sent out, the information on the packet containing the voting papers had to be checked that it was correct, i.e. serial number, name, rank, home unit, overseas unit, we also had to weed out any postal votes, for recently deceased members, and forward postal votes to members on pre-discharge or those just retired from service.

    We also forwarded the relevant "information" pamphlets from the political parties outlining their proposals to those overseas as well.

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