Reply With QuoteGood luck with that...
Dems propose to ban online ammo sales
By Mike Lillis - 07/30/12 02:15 PM ET
Leading Democratic gun reformers proposed Monday to ban online ammunition sales in the wake of the Colorado movie theater shooting in which the suspect allegedly purchased thousands of bullets via the Internet.
Sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), the bill is designed to make it tougher for violent people to obtain the firepower they intend to use on others.The bill would prohibit ammunition sales from anyone but licensed firearms dealers and require ammunition buyers to present photo IDs before each purchase, effectively ending the practice of online sales. The proposal would also require dealers to report bulk ammunition purchases of more than 1,000 rounds.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/24...ine-ammo-sales
Good luck with that...
I do think they just might be able to use the Commerce Clause. Even so they may not need Congress to do it. (BATFE hijinks and executive orders)Originally Posted by Arnie100
Last edited by Mein Teil; 08-05-2012 at 12:21 AM.
Sounds logical. This will surely stop any nut bag from doing harm to their peers. I don't see the logic and reasoning in this and I really wish I could find some. Is it in their best interest to try and track ammo? Intimidate you from buying a large amount of ammo?require ammunition buyers to present photo IDs before each purchase, effectively ending the practice of online sales.
This statement doesn't do it for me. They can just as easily walk into Walmart and buy what ever is left on the shelf.the bill is designed to make it tougher for violent people to obtain the firepower they intend to use on others.
But then you'd have to show your ID...nee ner nee ner nee ner.
Last edited by Mein Teil; 08-05-2012 at 12:37 AM.
Never happen unless the Dems win a Majority in Congress in November, and will then need to be re introduced. And I've had to fax a copy of my ID to every Mail order place I've ordered Ammo from.
I recently ordered a 584 round Brick of .22LR, 200 rd battlepack of surplus West German DAG 7.62NATO FMJ and 2 spam cans of Greek HXP .30-06 on M1 enbloc clips in bandoleers@ 192 rd each. OMG I must be Al Kada the famous terrorist......
Instead of banning the sales of ammo, how about we ban the sale of politicians?
If you have a gun to use your ammo why check again? Do illegal gun owners buy ammo legit online?
Maybe, maybe not. If I had to guess though, most of them probably walk into Wal Mart and grab the cheapest ammo they can find. There is no background check on ammunition, though there is an age requirement (backed up with ID checks).
Online, some places (AIM Surplus) make you fax a copy of your driver's license and others do not. While I personally think a faxed copy is sufficient, I'm sure it wouldn't be enough for the tards that introduced this. Furthermore, to my knowledge, you can't get a credit/debit card until age 18 anyway, and those are kind of necessary to make online purchases.
I think that the anti-gunners are more caught up on the "holy sh*t he had six thousand rounds" aspect of the shooting (not that he carried all 6K into the theater) than they are concerned about criminals buying ammo.
So what is the whole outrage about? It sound pretty logical to require ID for ammo sales. Selling ammo to kids is such a great idea after all.
Online sellers require that you send them a photocopy of your ID; at least, all the ones I have dealt with do.
Because the spirit of the law is to ban online transactions (I guarantee you a photocopy is not what the authors of this bill had in mind), which leaves us to buying ammo that, if we're lucky, is 20-50% more expensive than it previously was online. When I bought my shotgun, I bought some decent Federal defensive loads from a store along with some birdshot to practice with, and spent ~16 for 10 shells of the defensive stuff; I found the exact same load for $3/box online.
The idea here isn't to keep people safe, but rather to f*ck with us. You have to understand that, to the Lautenburgs and McCarthys of the world, we're quite literally no better than gang members; these people see us as criminals, or at least potential criminals -- and as such, wish to deprive us of the RKBA without due process of law... "for the children."
How would you react if the law allowed ammo to be ordered online, but must be delivered to a "licensed firearms dealers", where you show your ID and pick it up? Isn't that what happens with a lot of online firearm purchases?
I've actually done that before. I live on a college campus for most of the year, so getting a few thousand rounds of AK ammo delivered to my dorm would raise more than a few eyebrows (note: I have legal means of storing both my ammo and firearms -- I don't keep it in my dorm). I paid a few bucks extra to a guy I shoot with (he's an FFL -- does gunsmithing, has a 300M range out back), and he took delivery. I was fine with the process. I'd also be fine with sending in a photocopy of an ID to a dealer (not all require it). But what would that solve? Unless you start running background checks on the purchasers, the end result is the same. If checks were run, an FFL (federal firearms license -- gun dealer) would be the logical place to do it.
If I weren't on campus, it'd be perfectly legal in my state to have the ammo delivered to my door. My dad does it all the time, along with reloading supplies.
Sorry, I assumed that when you showed your ID, they did a quick background check with it. Never mind.
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