Reply With QuoteChinese hypocrisy as usual.
China should respect Tibet's territorial integrity and sovereignty.
China summons US diplomat in South China Sea row
BEIJING - China has summoned a senior US diplomat over American criticism of Beijing's decision to set up a new military garrison in the South China Sea, in an escalating row over the tense waters.Assistant Foreign Minister Zhang Kunsheng called in the US embassy's deputy chief of mission Robert Wang on Saturday, the foreign ministry said in a statement.
It came the same day Beijing publicly lashed out after the US said China had raised tensions in the region with the announcement late last month it had established a new city and garrison in the disputed Paracel islands.
Zhang told Wang that US State Department remarks on Friday "sent a seriously wrong message", echoing the strong public criticisms.
"The Chinese side expresses strong dissatisfaction of and firm opposition to it. We urge the US side to correct its mistaken ways, respect China's sovereignty and territorial integrity."
Zhang urged Wang to convey Beijing's message to the "highest level" of the US government, the statement said.
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%...05-363525.html
Chinese hypocrisy as usual.
China should respect Tibet's territorial integrity and sovereignty.
I guess that country does not have that word on their dictionary.Originally Posted by Arfah
Silly gwailo, all the world belongs to China, everyone else is violating Heavenly Kingdom On Earth China's RIGHTFUL territorial sovereignty!
In EngRish pRease ?
Oooooh. You're in trooouble.
oh. china, again. whoever wrote their responses are beginning to sound more and more like the norks...
China seems determined to summon more than the US Ambassador. They will ultimately summon the US Navy.
That country is pursuing the most dangerous imperialism of the 21st C. … at sea (their land-based expansion is another issue). This is purposeful, and with the level of their internal propaganda, is reaching the point where they will find it hard to back down.
They might discover that the US cannot allow this blue-water imperialism. Our vital national interests are at stake. And in a confrontation, the possibility of accidental serious, even world war, is very possible. One crazed or panicked Chinese gun boat captain who puts a missile into a US carrier… and it’s on…
China does seem to be becoming increasingly belligerent. The entire region would benefit greatly from a cooperative and diplomatic China, but they are heading in the opposite direction for some bizzare reason. Why resort to bully boy tactics when everyone else would be happy to work together on shared economic prosperity?
I look for small but significant things in diplomatic language. This little sentence represents a quantum leap for Chinese claims.
"The Chinese side expresses strong dissatisfaction of and firm opposition to it. We urge the US side to correct its mistakenways, respect China's sovereignty and territorial integrity."
The assertion of “sovereignty and territorial integrity” is far different from “economic zone” and vastly different from previous claims that the Chinese were not territorial waters, but would respect the rights of access and innocent passage and freedom of the seas for international trade in the S.China Sea.
This is very troubling. I thought the confrontation would be some years in the future. It will be shortly if the Chinese continue this fiction.
Last edited by Jacknola; 08-06-2012 at 12:49 AM.
Why do you think China has switched to provocation recently? Are they trying to find the boundaries of how far they can push before others push back?
I can only speculate …
1. No one stepped forward and directly challenged them when the first offered up this ridiculous claim, so they keep raising the ante.
2. They may think they own the US financially now…
3. They may think the US will not intervene under any circumstances and is so isolationist or so preoccupied with other threats that they can do what they want…
4. They may think that they can “win” a short term confrontation sink a few ships, and the US will call it off …leading to getting the whole pie… and more…
5. They may believe that in the case of a larger regional conflict, the US will either stand aside or have no stomach for a war far away.
6. They may be in some serious internal trouble that requires a xenophobic enemy.
They could be close to making the same mistake that the Japanese made in WWII, and Al Quaeda made in Afghanistan/twin towers, etc. That is… thinking the US is an effete, fat, easily distracted country who cannot stand the pace and cost of a serious conflict. They probably think they would have support of the perpetually anti-military left wing faction of the US (35 percent of the population but including press and academic community).
All of these beliefs and cases spell “miscalculation,”which is the most troubling thing of all… miscalculation has been the cause of more terrible wars than calculation. And all of the above indicate a belief that the US is a paper tiger, so they can proceed how they wish.
The time is coming when the US may need to make a public unequivocal declaration of our intention’s to protect the sea lanes and international law. It must be unequivocal though, and would have to be enforced if it is not to be seen as another “peace for our time”statement.
Your space bar is broken Jack?
Hi Jack,
Do you think it has its roots in the Korean war, when they saw that they can fight the US into a stalemate? And if the US can allow for a stalemate in a land of its ally, how much more so for a bunch or rocks in the middle of the sea? I mean if they go the decise route and finish off the claimanst navy through supperior force, they can easily negotiate with the US to ensure that the SLOC is kept open.
No, I don’tthink Korea is an encouragement spur… China was hugely damaged in Korea, its army wrecked,it was in serious trouble in Korea and knows it. Korea was more of a inhibition to China thanto the US.
Something weshould start to consider is goals and means. Ultimately, if China intends to annex the S.China sea, Okinawa, portionsof the western Pacific, are we willing to go to war to prevent it. If not, what are our goals? If so, what are our means and what would constitutevictory?
Space bar …My computer now rejects militaryphotos.net whenever I log in. It shuts down the connection and gives me amessage that the site is trying to change my registry in dangerous ways. So, I have to type a message in word, andthen quickly paste it before 10 seconds has passed. Trouble is, when I copy-paste from Word intoM-P, the spaces come out all screwed up. I’ve tried to find out what is going on in M-P… is there a virus in thesystem, does it implant stuff… but have been unable to figure it out. Very irritating.
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