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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    New York City......
    We all know LD is an undocumented worker. Duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    New York City......
    It's okay, Hank Hill was born there as well, and he turned out a decent American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    New York City......
    I know that...just wanted to show you that little thingie over there.

    NABN: It is a troll case, from the USSC to the States...it regards the core of our issue. Church and Religion big No, No with the State.

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    Why not just create specific religious schools like the Catholics do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...ol=330&invol=1

    I will leave this here...with folks from NY and all.
    IIRC at one time SCOTUS held slavery legal, I beleive that was the Infamous Dred Scott decision, aka Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393?


    But again nice trolling run out of Syrian threads, and French city demands for crown jewels threads to pollute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Cruiser View Post
    Why not just create specific religious schools like the Catholics do?
    There are thousands of them. They are all private though. These are public schools that are in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    I know that...just wanted to show you that little thingie over there.

    NABN: It is a troll case, from the USSC to the States...it regards the core of our issue. Church and Religion big No, No with the State.
    Oh, I'm very well aware. I spent two and a half months of my life studying that specific topic. I'm just saying: there are much better cases to use for this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    IIRC at one time SCOTUS held slavery legal, I beleive that was the Infamous Dred Scott decision, aka Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393?


    But again nice trolling run out of Syrian threads, and French city demands for crown jewels threads to pollute?
    That would be all, thank you.

    NABN: There is no discussion here what so ever about your point, we are in agreement. You were actually faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    IIRC at one time SCOTUS held slavery legal, I beleive that was the Infamous Dred Scott decision, aka Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393?


    But again nice trolling run out of Syrian threads, and French city demands for crown jewels threads to pollute?
    Yep. Dred Scott held that blacks could legally be classified as property unless freed, and that non-slave states had an obligation to return them to their owners. Plessy v. Fergusen held that they could be kept separate from whites, provided that they were afforded all the rights, privileges, and immunities of US Citizens. There are cases in line with Plessy that allowed certain colleges to put up sheets in between sections of students, one section for whites and one for blacks. Sometimes the Court gets it wrong; that's why, on rare occasions, they reverse past precedent (as Brown v. Board of Education I and II did). If that doesn't work, we have an Amendment process (the 13th Amendment effectively reversed Dred Scott).

    Still a pretty half-baked attempt to discredit them, however, considering that they're the ones who get to interpret the law and settle Constitutional disputes. Until the current (and long-standing) trend of non-interference with religion ("shall neither advance nor inhibit") is reversed, however, the law of the land means that the Government has very little business with religion, whether that be involving intelligent design in schools or creating permits to allow for proselytizing (a CT case).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IraGlacialis View Post
    This week, Missouri is putting forward Amendment 2.
    Well lets hope Missouri is smart enough not to fall into this pit.
    Point 1 is, well pointless since they have that already.
    Point 2 - Not sure how legal it would be for it to be on site during school hours in the US. It will blow up the moment the "wrong" religion insists on using this right anyway.
    Point 3 - Just a hook to catch a few more votes, who would vote against the BoR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtydiaper View Post
    I'll wait this out until when Muslims in Missouri starts to refuse classes that are mix-sexed and demand segregation.
    I doubt that will cause much problem compared to them holding prayers in school. After all this ballot will grant those rights to all religions, not just the "right" religion.

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