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    Tensions rise after Beijing declares city, which Vietnam lays claim to, its newest municipality

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

    The banners, T-shirts and handwritten posters said it all. "China! Hands off Vietnam!" read one. "Shame on you, bastard neighbour," said another. "Stop escalating, invading the East Sea of Vietnam," a third declared.

    As the protesters weaved their way through the crowded streets of Hanoi, past the peeling colonial villas and upmarket shops selling stereos and Versace, they charged towards the Chinese embassy, where they hoped to make a stand against what they call "China's constant aggression".

    "I hate China!" said one fortysomething protester, his voice hoarse from shouting slogans. "Germany invaded Poland during the second world war, now China wants to do the same to Vietnam. History may repeat itself if the international community is not made aware of China's bullying."

    From government offices to the streets of Vietnam, tensions between Beijing and Hanoi have mounted in recent weeks over what China calls the South China Sea and Vietnam the East Sea, an area where vast deposits of oil and gas, important international shipping routes and fishing rights are of interest not just to Beijing and Hanoi, but also to the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei.

    But last month's protesters had only China on their mind. After detaining a group of Vietnamese fishermen near disputed islands this year, Beijing announced that the state-backed China National Offshore Oil Corporation was seeking bids for oil exploration in what Vietnam deems its own sovereign waters.

    It also declared Sansha City – on tiny Yongxing in the Paracel islands, which Vietnam lays claim to – China's newest municipality. The anti-China protest was the third of its kind in Hanoi in one month. "The territorial ambition of China is a common threat – not only for the Philippines or Vietnam but for countries all over the world," said leading economist Le Dang Doanh, a former government adviser who recently signed an open letter calling for China to abandon its "absurd maritime claims" in the region. "China's territorial claims are now bigger than China itself."
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    Oh man, China is escalating regional tensions again and making territorial grabs? I wonder if this is what it felt like in Europe prior to WWII?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Cruiser View Post
    Oh man, China is escalating regional tensions again and making territorial grabs? I wonder if this is what it felt like in Europe prior to WWII?
    Maybe and maybe not. Who is China afraid of?

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    China's territorial claims are now bigger than China itself.
    if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry's Fork View Post
    if true.
    Well if you only include China without it's outlying provinces and the maximum extent of it's recent claims then it isn't far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    Maybe and maybe not. Who is China afraid of?
    The US.

    If China draws the US into any potential conflict all bets are off.

    China does not have the capability to take on a fraction of the US's fleet (not to mention the remainder of her allies), China is playing their hand far to early in the game. Stupid.

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    THe biggest thing is like WW2 no one will want to wage war at the start so some countries will fall. Hopefully the few countries that do fall don't weaken the anti-china alliance in the event of WW3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdisonTrent View Post
    THe biggest thing is like WW2 no one will want to wage war at the start so some countries will fall. Hopefully the few countries that do fall don't weaken the anti-china alliance in the event of WW3.
    Vietnam will not fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Cruiser View Post
    Oh man, China is escalating regional tensions again and making territorial grabs? I wonder if this is what it felt like in Europe prior to WWII?
    God forbid it claim places far offshore of itself. Not like any other country has never done that, except for grabbing a few islands like Wake, Guam, American Samoa, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subotai View Post
    God forbid it claim places far offshore of itself. Not like any other country has never done that, except for grabbing a few islands like Wake, Guam, American Samoa, etc.
    Yeah, obviously those examples are the exact same thing China is doing.

    Are you competing with Nyusu for the DAOTW award? If so, great effort! >*holds up '9.2' score card*<

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIsLife View Post
    The US.
    That's unless we pay off our debt to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    "I hate China!" said one fortysomething protester, his voice hoarse from shouting slogans. "Germany invaded Poland during the second world war, now China wants to do the same to Vietnam. History may repeat itself if the international community is not made aware of China's bullying."
    I now know that why Viet Nam government arrested them, because they are insincere protesters envisioning a world out of order.

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    China's territorial claims are now bigger than China itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry's Fork View Post
    if true.
    Someone will laugh more loudly if China's territorial claims are smaller than China itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tusiki View Post
    I now know that why Viet Nam government arrested them, because they are insincere protesters envisioning a world out of order.
    Telling China off for trying to lay claim to the world = disorder, chaos?

    Are you actually trying to state this?

    And how are they insincere? Are you saying they're lying or have some hidden agenda?

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