Reply With QuoteHas anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?Originally Posted by boel72b
Sure ? 3 years in a special operations unit ........ and i know anything .....
The reality in military tactics. it's who all copy the another tactiques......... but anybody admits....
us copy to russia, russia copy to israel, israel copy to uk, and uk copy to usa........
it's the true....... the image of us superman it's only for the movies...... to the profesionals only search the eficace
Not is lap balls .... it's to be realistic...... "Chauvinisme" don't save yours men's life
Anybody's wetted me( in go out of the military for my actual wife and don't have anithing to be wetted in mp's)...... and they can go to fort brag an asked to the gb......."Its life (English) Jim, but, not as we know it!"
Hopefully somebody vetted your joining application.
Connaught Ranger
I have my opinion based in my experience and respect to us military........ some guys don't like who i and their military respect
the experience of the "enemy" like I respect to the ussocom experience
P.d Some guys can be inflamed fot that.... but ......... it's only a opinion
Last edited by boel72b; 08-11-2012 at 04:02 PM.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Sorry but I can't see it. Where are you from?
Google maps for Boel: Romania,Slovakia, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands and Danmark
For his english skills I would guess Romania or Slovakia.
I think boel72b has some good points, if you try to understand him.
Sorry I hate to say this But I find it easier to read Time Travelers posts than you
you again obviously don't comprehend that SOE and OSS worked in Civilian clothes and enemy uniform and with Partisans in the Balkans and Resistants in Europe. Jedburghs ring a Bell?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Jedburgh there were similar operation in Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, etc.
At Waco they werent Hostages for one thing, they were part of the cult. Secondly the FBI HRT and ATF are 2 seperate entitys. Again your lack of facts astounds...
Unintelligible Gibberish
again get someone who can read/write english and repost this as its barely coherent.
And no ones trains with the US?
On Your partWHAT???? Armored Personnel Carriers to advance the Infantry with the Tanks is a Basic Tenet of combined arms philosophy. In WWII the US, UK, & Germany had this capability recognized and had the vehicles to accompany their tanks. The Soviets resorted to welding handholds to tank turrets for Infantry. So the Soviet Infantry were exposed to enemy fires Direct and Indirect the entire time during the assault with NO protection other than their overcoats.
The US Army was experimenting at the same time as the Soviets and Germans as was the French and British. The British had a Model of Tank in 1918 that not only could be used as a carrier of supplies and Infantry but had successfully been tested in Amphibious tests. The Mark IX could carry 10 tonnes of supplies, or 30 armed Infantrymen and on 11 November 1918 successfully showed its amphibious capability in Welsh Harp Reservoir.
Read George S. Patton III, Adna R. Chaffee Jr., Charles De Gaulle, Hugh Elles, JFC Fuller, Basil Liddell Hart......
And what?
You think anybody of them understand tank tactics better than Guderian?
1940 Germany invading France = 6 weeks
1944 Allies invading occupied France = 5 months
boel honestly I would have to take a hard look at myself if you thought highly of me. I don't know if you are special operations but it's obvious you are special.
Sure, bub...
read about these guys tard.
http://www.insigne.org/OSS-2671.htm
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f.../oss/art05.htm
Let's be civil. I have a PM to that member. Let us see who he is or is not. If he is a poser, he will be gone. Let the Mods decide.
Thanks,
H.
Boel I don't want to be rude, but if you are having difficulty with speaking in English, I recommend you use a Google Translator. Albeit, it won't be as accurate, but at least your spelling and texts format would be a lot nicer.
http://translate.google.com/
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- To be fair, the United States Special Operation Forces do work with dozen of others Special Forces from around the world. I wouldn't say it's a bad thing or anything to be shameful about since they are sharing viable skills and knowledge with each other. It helps build up bond and trusts between nations and prepare soldiers or operators for any unexpected scenarios; such as a hijacked Airliner.
- For the most part nobody even knows what goes on in the CIA, that's why they're CIA. But even if that's the case, there's nothing wrong with adapting with other nationality tactics. It doesn't mean that our paramilitary isn't the best, just as long as we're capable of pulling it off.
- I honestly don't understand this part of the statement. If you're trying to say how good other nationality's Special Forces team is compare to ours, prop to them I suppose. But our Special Operation Forces are trained for all climates and any situations too.
- And yet they are no where to be seen in Afghanistan.
- Finally something we can agree on.
- Blending in with the locals isn't a new idea or concept, we've been doing that since the war with the Native American. You could debate whether who's copy who's idea first since it's irrelevant and doesn't prove whether you are the best or not. For the most part the only history that the Special Operation Forces studied is the country that they are going to be on deployment in. This is to give a general idea of what to expect upon arrival and how to respect other nation's custom.
- As already mentioned before, "copying" doesn't mean you're the best or not, just as long as you could pull it off.
- I really don't understand this. But I hope you aren't trying to be insulting.
- I don't see anything wrong about it, nor do you see most Americans going around bragging about it either.
- Sorry, but this doesn't make any sense. Nor do I understand anything that follows afterward.
All this amount of talking just because you couldn't handle a joke.
Last edited by Dufus old hag; 08-12-2012 at 12:24 AM.
trying to point out combined arms warfare wasnt invented by Germany. BUT since you want to play. And I do indeed believe Patton understood tank tactics better than Guderian ANd would not be surprised if Hart and Fuller also understood them better.
1941 Germany invades Russia, winds up losing
1943 Germany Loses in North Africa
1943 Germany Loses in Sicily
1945 Germany Loses in Italy
1945 Germany loses in Yugoslavia
1945 Germany loses in Northwest Europe
Guderian winds up prisoner of the Ami
Germany proper is Occupied for 10 years
Berlin Occupied for 45 years
All your bases had belong to us....
New technique added,
Level up
Ah many thanks,
Yeah I saw some good points so I want to know where his Engrish is from.
Germany loses war.
You think so? He is actually correct in many of the things he says. You on the otherhand have very little to offer into discussion. I certainly can't remember a case of meaningful contribution.
Disregard his broken english. I'm sure if you tried to write in, say, finnish you'd sound like a retard.
What he is saying is that there is no revolution in tactics. It is evolution and everybody copies the techniques and tactics that (they think) work into their own national armies. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is what a smart and sensible person would do. These days it is only easier than in the past due globalisation and widespread distribution of knowledge.
An example:
- US winter warfare school copied Finnish winter warfare tactics, many of the instructors were actually Finns.
- Finns copy US MOUT tactics a bit later on. Actually some of the instructional pictures of Finnish FM's can be originally found in US FM's.
This is how it goes. Everyone feeds on everyone else's past experience. Succesful methodologies & techniques are copied world wide, wrong methodology is disregarded. It is global evolution.
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