Gun Control Bill, Seeks To Slow Bullet Reloading, Infuriates Gun Activists

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“While most gun owners are law-abiding, it is a fact that such weapons are more likely to be used to kill an innocent person than used in self-defense," Yee said in a press release. "One only needs to look at England, Japan, and other nations with strict gun access to see that these types of gun control laws are effective in preventing gun-related homicides.”

(COUGH) what about Switzerland where EVERY household with an adult male 34 and under, has a FULLY AUTOMATIC BATTLE RIFLE??? They have a firearms related death rate of 1/250000 per year as of 2006 (COUGH)

...uncomfortable facts

[Laconian]

And so it continues...

[Impartial Bias]

He would be from San Francisco. P​ussy Mulligan City, USA.

[ACDC]

...uncomfortable facts

Well some of the uncomfortable facts you stated are well not the Facts.

Yes, Swiss have gun but due to fact it has an organized militia. All Militia members have a fully automatic gun and Ammo issued. Once a civilian, the fully automatic weapon is converted into semi - automatic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1566715.stm

Also, as being part of a Militia, Its members are militarily trained how to use a firearm and go through psychological evaluation to make sure they are mentally stable. The shooter in Colorado should have never got a gun for he was mentally unstable and a Psychiatrist patient.


There is a big debate in SWISS as well regarding Guns..

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Specials...l?cid=29356690

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics...l?cid=29182208

I believe many would agree that although we stand by the 2nd Amendment rights but there has to be restriction as to who are afforded those rights. There should be stricter background checks to say the least. Maybe a gun registry.

Time after Time crazies and idiots get access to weapons way to easily in US.

[Corrupt]

(COUGH) what about Switzerland where EVERY household with an adult male 34 and under, has a FULLY AUTOMATIC BATTLE RIFLE??? They have a firearms related death rate of 1/250000 per year as of 2006 (COUGH)

So Americans as the problem?

Time after Time crazies and idiots get access to weapons way to easily in US.

"Interestingly", most, if not all of the infamous spree killings in the UK, were carried out using licensed, legal weapons. After Dunblane and Hungerford, where legally owned, licensed, guns were used, handguns and semi automatic full bore rifles were banned. When Derek Bird snapped, he has a bolt action .22 and a double barelled shotgun, with which he killed 12 and injured 11 before shooting himself. There's a legitimate question to be asked, "would the massacre have been worse if he'd owned semi automatic, full bore weapons and/or handguns?"

[seraosha]

No, what part of RIGHTS don't you morons get?

There are crazy people that get away with being crazy long enough to hurt people...you can't legislate that, you can't predict that, and you sure as **** can't prevent that, not without telepathy and a time machine, which currently do not exist, so no thoughtcrime.

There will ALWAYS be crazy, evil criminals as long as humans exist, and the only defense against them is to shoot them down like the mad dogs they are, before they hurt more. And making it harder for law abiding citizens to posses and conceal handguns is NOT the solution.
I mean WTF more do you fools need explained?

[Roebuck]

Well some of the uncomfortable facts you stated are well not the Facts.

Yes, Swiss have gun but due to fact it has an organized militia. All Militia members have a fully automatic gun and Ammo issued. Once a civilian, the fully automatic weapon is converted into semi - automatic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1566715.stm

Also, as being part of a Militia, Its members are militarily trained how to use a firearm and go through psychological evaluation to make sure they are mentally stable. The shooter in Colorado should have never got a gun for he was mentally unstable and a Psychiatrist patient.


There is a big debate in SWISS as well regarding Guns..

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Specials...l?cid=29356690

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics...l?cid=29182208

I believe many would agree that although we stand by the 2nd Amendment rights but there has to be restriction as to who are afforded those rights. There should be stricter background checks to say the least. Maybe a gun registry.

Time after Time crazies and idiots get access to weapons way to easily in US.

They already banned soldiers taking Sigs home with them?

[Laconian]

No, what part of RIGHTS don't you morons get?

There are crazy people that get away with being crazy long enough to hurt people...you can't legislate that, you can't predict that, and you sure as **** can't prevent that, not without telepathy and a time machine, which currently do not exist, so no thoughtcrime.

There will ALWAYS be crazy, evil criminals as long as humans exist, and the only defense against them is to shoot them down like the mad dogs they are, before they hurt more. And making it harder for law abiding citizens to posses and conceal handguns is NOT the solution.
I mean WTF more do you fools need explained?

But think of the CHILDREN!!!!

[sgt_G]

But think of the CHILDREN!!!!

Arm them too?

[LineDoggie]

they should have more restrictions to have access to a gun

if you're law-abiding, its just another step, but a crucial one that can prevent lives lost

gun owners can still have access or acquire a firearm

I'd still like to know how the colorado gunman was able to get so many guns

Your freedom to speak needs to be restricted? why Because I as a Law abiding citizen say so. you can still speak when I allow you to speak, See you still have access to speech?

Keep that day job.....

[Geezah]

No, what part of RIGHTS don't you morons get?

In a nutshell, thank you......while our Bill of Rights is based on the British Bill of Rights, we went one step further and made sure it is still applicable today.

There are crazy people that get away with being crazy long enough to hurt people...you can't legislate that, you can't predict that, and you sure as **** can't prevent that, not without telepathy and a time machine, which currently do not exist, so no thoughtcrime.

There will ALWAYS be crazy, evil criminals as long as humans exist, and the only defense against them is to shoot them down like the mad dogs they are, before they hurt more. And making it harder for law abiding citizens to posses and conceal handguns is NOT the solution.
I mean WTF more do you fools need explained?

I did think that after the VT shooting there were more restrictions put in place to make it harder for nut jobs to gain access to firearms, and as time goes on, we are finding out more and more about the specimen that escaped the abortion bucket in Colorado, and how he was viewed as a danger to others.......

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So Americans as the problem?

Lol could be ....

Walt Wawra, a police officer from Kalamazoo, Michigan, was vacationing in Calgary, Alberta, with his wife Debbie when he encountered a situation that made him reach for his off-duty handgun.
But the weapon wasn't there because he had been told he has "no need to carry one in Canada." So he fired a letter to the Calgary Herald instead to complain about his inability to protect his family from the city's riff raff.
Case in point: While strolling through Calgary's bucolic Nose Hill Park, Wawra and his wife were suddenly confronted by two men who stepped in their path and, "in a very aggressive tone," demanded to know if the couple had "been to the Stampede yet" (the city's annual rodeo, which celebrated its centennial this year).
"We ignored them," Wawra writes, but "the two moved closer, repeating: 'Hey, you been to the Stampede yet?'"
That's when the 20-year police force vet got angry and "quickly moved between these two and my wife, replying, 'Gentle-men, I have no need to talk with you, goodbye.'" Walt and Debbie then continued on their way, leaving the Stampede Brothers behind looking "bewildered."

http://gawker.com/5932846/american-b...-confrontation

[seraosha]

Welcome to my ignore list, chucklenuts.

[PMI]

Well some of the uncomfortable facts you stated are well not the Facts.

Neither are some of Leland Lee's, yet you seem unconcerned with his inaccuracies.

Claim:

" it is a fact that such weapons are more likely to be used to kill an innocent person than used in self-defense"

That is not a fact. It is a highly suspect claim.

Various studies have estimated that firearms are used in self-defense between 800K & 2.5M times annually in the US. Even if those numbers are off by an order of magnitude they still dwarf the total number of firearm related deaths in the US each year. That is still without drilling down into the numbers to find what subset of the total deaths constitutes 'innocent persons'.

[C.Puffs]

There's a legitimate question to be asked, "would the massacre have been less if there had been a few conceiled carry citizens in the crowd?"

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