Excuses, excuses, excuses from the EU apologists. You just keep right on thinking everything hunky dory. I mean almost 4 years of rising double digit unemployment for Spain (hey you measure seasons in years Kotemore?) Greece23%, France10%, Italy 11% and Germany flirting with it at 7% hey I guess you all know what the fook your doing over there.
Feel free to tell us all about the economic paradise you live in sunshine.
You know what? I got a better idea. Why don't all you EU guys explain to me how 25% unemployment in Spain isn't really that bad and actually helps the EU in the long run.
Originally Posted by American Caesar
I never said the US was fine. It sucks big $hit over here.
I'd get another "advisor" if I were you for you're clearly being misadvised. The roots of the Spain situation grew in Spain and the current crisis is as much an argument against the EU as, for example, are California's empty coffers a reason against the union of the United States of America: no reason at all.
And so are all the other "arguments" dorks like you invoke over and over again: exceeding bureaucracy, mismanagement, lacking transparency, insufficient possibilities for democratic participation... tell me how are these issues endemic to the European Union?
Doesn't Capitol Hill lack of transparency at times? Don't American companies groan under the weight of abysmal bureaucracy, and not only just since Obama? As for the mismanagement part, heck just the other week us mp.netters got to read a news report on how the United States government spent enormous sums on "drumsticks" for "teambuilding exercises"...
These are problems (which demand reasonable action and not obtuse clamor from the off, by the way) every system has to cope with, yet you don't seem to hold them against the system of the United States of America and you don't call for its dissolution.
This isn't petty Eurowussie vs. Murica talk by the way. I don't resent you your own opinion but truthless one-liners I shall not let go uncommented.
A couple of Americans getting their panties in a twist about the European Union? Priceless.
.... from someone who *never* comments on American economic issue. Priceless.
If the EU goes down, it will take down the rest of the global economy with it (same with all the big nations/blocs). But I guess we have no right to be concerned, or even discuss it in a discussion board.
How about I put you in touch with our family's investment planner that we have known for over 10 years who has told us about all the $hit that has been going on behind the scenes in the EU and the US that will never make into the mainstream news.
I take it your the scion of a leading American family whose investment adviser is tied in to the Fed, NSA, CIA and Goldman Sachs? If not, your advisor is talking pants and is probably a delusional fantasist.
Last edited by Mr Gently Benevolent; 08-09-2012 at 01:55 PM.