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    Can't they just have a civilized election? All those slander and attacks on add's and commercials is just plain childish. Reminds me about those 7-10 year olds i teach as a substitute teacher.

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    I think for Obama, it would be quite difficult to run on his record. Hence, with the aid of his allies in the media and his super pac buddies, the objective is to destroy Romney. In my opinion, the attack ads like this patently false ad put out by an Obama super pac, are an attempt to distract us from the very deep pile of **** Obama has created for this country.

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    Arrow Guy In Obama Commercial is LYING About His Wife's Cancer Death

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    This is really low, Joe Soptic appears in a pro-Obama ad and blames Mitt Romney for the cancer death of his wife--and he's lying. While it's true that the his wife died from cancer, it happened, seven years after Romney left the company, five years after Bain closed the unsuccessful plant. When he lost his health insurance his wife still had it for another two years until she lost her job.

    Heck even CNN is throwing down the bullsh*t card on this one:

    WOLF BLITZER, CNN: “Meanwhile a new attack ad by a Super PAC backing President Obama basically blames Mitt Romney for a woman's death from cancer after his company, Bain Capital, shut down the steel mill where the woman’s husband worked. Let's go to our White House correspondent Brianna Keilar, she's watching this for us. Brianna, on the surface it seems pretty outrageous to blame Mitt Romney for the death of this woman. That's a pretty outrageous claim. But what's going on here?”

    BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN: “It does when you dig deeper here, Wolf, because this ad makes it sound like this woman passed away shortly after Bain Capital closed down the steel plant where her husband worked. But in reality she passed away five years after it closed. And the former steel worker in this ad, I spoke to him on the phone today and he said that during some of that time his wife had insurance through her employer. So, Wolf, this is a heart-wrenching story, but it's not accurate.


    KEILAR VOICEOVER: “Joe Soptic worked at GST Steel in Missouri for almost 30 years. He was laid off after Bain Capital acquired the plant, eventually closing it down. Now Soptic is featured in a new ad by Priorities USA Action, the Super PAC supporting President Obama's re-election.”


    PRIORITIES USA AD: “When Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant, I lost my health care, and my family lost their health care. And a short time after that my wife became ill. And then I took her up to the Jackson County hospital and admitted her for pneumonia, and that's when they found the cancer. By then it was Stage 4. There was nothing they could do for her.”


    KEILAR: “It's a heartbreaking story, but the ad does not tell all of it. In 1999 Mitt Romney leaves Bain for the Salt Lake Olympics, stopping day-to-day oversight of the company but remaining CEO. In 2001, Joe Soptic loses his job when Bain closes the plant. His wife still has insurance, though, through her employer, Saver’s thrift store. A year later, Romney formerly leaves Bain. And it's that year, 2002, or perhaps 2003, Soptic tells CNN, that his wife leaves her job because of an injury. That's when she became uninsured without fallback insurance from her husband. A few years later, in 2006, she goes to the hospital is diagnosed with cancer and dies just days later. Soptic, an Obama supporter who was in another ad back in May for the Obama campaign, blames Romney for the loss of his job and his insurance.”


    JOE SOPTIC: “That's the way that I feel. I mean, Mitt Romney, he's a very rich man. I mean it's obvious if you watch him on television that he's completely out of touch with the average family, or, you know, middle income people. I don't think he has any concept as to how when you close a big company like that how it affects families, the community. You know, it affects everyone.”


    KEILAR: “The Romney campaign is blasting the ad. A spokeswoman saying President Obama's allies continue to use discredited and dishonest attacks in a contemptible effort to conceal the administration's deplorable economic record. The Obama campaign and the White House are keeping their distance from the debate. White House press secretary Jay Carney said he has yet to see the ad.”


    JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE: “I'm simply saying I have not seen this. So how could I possibly assess it without--”


    KEILAR: “Will you assess it later?”


    CARNEY: “If you ask me tomorrow, sure.”


    KEILAR: “Now, Wolf, I followed up with Carney after the briefing and he told me that he may look at the ad but if I ask about it, ‘my assessment will be I have no assessment.’ This is kind of a case of the Super PAC being able to do the dirty work and the campaign and candidate, and in this case, the White House, trying to keep its hands clean.”


    BLITZER: “All right, so the White House at least now not touching this commercial. The Obama campaign I take it isn't saying anything about it either, is that right? What about the Super PAC itself? What are they saying?”


    KEILAR: “That's right. Everything is being referred to the Super PAC. I spoke with Bill Burton, a founder of Priorities USA Action. And I pressed him on this, are you drawing this link between Mitt Romney and this woman's death? And he said, no, we're not doing that. But Wolf, I think a lot of people who looked at that ad, certainly you, certainly I, did not walk away from it with that impression.”


    BLITZER: “We'll talk about this ad in our next hour as well. We have a representative from the Obama campaign, a representative from the Romney campaign. They'll be on together, and we'll go through this point by point by point. Excellent report, Brianna, I really appreciate the good work. Thanks so much.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallap View Post
    Can't they just have a civilized election? All those slander and attacks on add's and commercials is just plain childish. Reminds me about those 7-10 year olds i teach as a substitute teacher.
    If Barry quit slinging mud what would he have to say? He can't run on his record.

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    You can take Obama out of Chicago Politics, but you can't take Chicago Politics out of Obama......it is the Chicago way to be down and dirty.......I still can't believe that people voted for the Idiot, when he had no record to present as a reason to vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezah View Post
    You can take Obama out of Chicago Politics, but you can't take Chicago Politics out of Obama......it is the Chicago way to be down and dirty.......I still can't believe that people voted for the Idiot, when he had no record to present as a reason to vote for him.
    He made all the right noises and the competition was almost an irrelavence. McCain is a decent dude but he is hardly the most personable politician and he was teamed up with a scatty slavering loon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gently Benevolent View Post
    a scatty slavering loon.
    It is fascinating to watch the raw, screaming hatred that the left has for Palin. It is positively pathological in nature.

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    You know what this reminds me of? 5 year-olds fighting in the sand pit in kindergarten.

    American politics, especially in the context of presidential elections are getting ever more retarded and petty. From both sides, no less.

    Anyone taking part in it should, just for a minute, take a step back and have a little think about what kind of ridiculous ratrace he is participating in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexer View Post
    You know what this reminds me of? 5 year-olds fighting in the sand pit in kindergarten.

    American politics, especially in the context of presidential elections are getting ever more retarded and petty. From both sides, no less.

    Anyone taking part in it should, just for a minute, take a step back and have a little think about what kind of ridiculous ratrace he is participating in.
    As opposed to European parliamentary politics? You are throwing stones from a glass house, my friend. *All* politics are ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    It is fascinating to watch the raw, screaming hatred that the left has for Palin. It is positively pathological in nature.
    It's because she's hot. Their womenz are all flannel-wearing truck drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    As opposed to European parliamentary politics? You are throwing stones from a glass house, my friend. *All* politics are ridiculous.
    I can only speak for my country, but we don't have this sort of **** in our house. Political TV-campaigns aren't even legal here, which is really quite great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    If Barry quit slinging mud what would he have to say? He can't run on his record.
    Ronald Reagan told jokes, maybe he could do the same. Or come with handy household advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    It is fascinating to watch the raw, screaming hatred that the left has for Palin. It is positively pathological in nature.
    Not hatin on Mr O and having a low opinion of a foreign politician does not make one a leftist. You should see my raw screaming hatred for Maggie Thatcher, John Selwyn Gummer and Tommy Sheridan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gently Benevolent View Post
    Not hatin on Mr O and having a low opinion of a foreign politician does not make one a leftist. You should see my raw screaming hatred for Maggie Thatcher, John Selwyn Gummer and Tommy Sheridan.
    After reading and responding to your posts for this long, which end of the political spectrum you inhabit is not in question. It is interesting, though, how so many left-leaning people view themselves as 'centrist' or 'moderate'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    As opposed to European parliamentary politics? You are throwing stones from a glass house, my friend. *All* politics are ridiculous.
    Nope, I am certainly not throwing stones from a glass house in regard to election times. I give you the point that politics, no matter where, are on a downward spirale, but what goes down in the US right now and probably will be until november is a whole other level to what you would experience in Germany, for example.

    I feel that there are people in the USA, a minority but still very very vocal, on both sides of the political spectrum who enjoy this charade and willingly take part in it, accompanied by a lot of average people who set the stage for this BS to go down on.
    If all these normal people would speak out against this petty BS, then politicians would have to rethink what their campaigns should really focus on.

    You as an independent should agree with me on that point right?

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