Reply With QuoteI was thinking more whiskey and animal food myself. I have seen the kids around here and they could miss a few meals.Originally Posted by seraosha
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day...and I agree with the UN.
The US should stop producing ethanol and kick up corn syrup production.
Think of the children.
I was thinking more whiskey and animal food myself. I have seen the kids around here and they could miss a few meals.
"Whiskey"
You really are the Hog Hunter, aren't you sherm!??!?!?
Here it's not recommended for small engines.every one of the small engine machines that I have choke on that gummed up shyte.Lawn mover, motorcycles etc. besides corn is from the heathen red savages.
Yes, but only marginally less. If you are tuning an engine to run on, say, E10, you need to aim for an air fuel ratio of around 14.1:1 for stoichiometric running instead of 14.7:1 for normal petrol. E85 use would show a significant change in 'economy' since ethanol has only about 2/3 the calorific value of petrol.
US farmers get checks from the govt to set aside corn for ethanol.
IMHO making ethanol out of any food crop is BS. It's not environmentally or economically sensible policy. On the other hand using house hold waste to produce biodiesel is an excellent idea.
I've been personally involved with changing servos over to E10 , will not let it get anywhere near any of my cars.
You need an additive to mix ethanol with petrol , but because of that petrol will now mix with water also.
This is ok if your underground infrastructure is new but if you run old steel tanks which are older than 10 to 5 years which all of those are now
you will have holes in them and water penetration.
Also older style rubber seals will not like ethanol.
Ethanol contains less combustible energy by volume than gasoline. While it has inherently better ability to resist knocking than gasoline... you pump the octane rating you're supposed to use for the compression your engine is designed for - so it really makes no sense to champion ethanol for performance reasons in the common market.
In the United States - with the maturity of our corn agriculture industry and ethanol industry - we really should stop "mandating" fuel blends and let the refineries/gasoline distributors decide the % based on market conditions.
If it saves everyone money to go 100% gasoline in the South - then let them blend it as such. If it saves everyone money for Midwestern gasoline to include 10%-15% ethanol - let them.
Gasoline and ethanol refinement/distribution is a highly regional market and we should let the market reflect those regional differences.
+1. Also ethanol is a more potent solvent and will dislodge buildup in older fuel lines/filters/intake manifold/injectors. Plus it can seriously **** up your emissions control systems. It isn't backward compatible for everybody.Also older style rubber seals will not like ethanol.
By the same token if there's water in your system it will soak it all up allowing it to be burnt by the engine. Combustion chambers and pistons run cleaner too. Material compatiblity is not generally a problem with most components with E10, but if your hoses and such are already 'marginal' they'll be finished off. Orbital engine company did some research into E20 some years back, there were some dramas with the higher concentration.
It is none of those things...
Brazil is doing pretty well with sugar - but that's something of a special case.
Has the U.S ever tried using Sugar Kane instead of corn? I heard that you get far more fuel from it, and it is cleaner burning?
This is common practice in Brazil.
True, but as you mentioned Brazil is a special case. I think it might work/works in some other countries too, mostly in tropical and not too industrial etc.
Personally I think we should concentrate on biodiesel and electrical vehicles. Biodiesel from household, industrial and farm waste. Electricity from the nuclear power plants, hydropower if you have it, until something better comes along.
That has nothing to do with people starving around the world. The people that go hungry all over the world:
1 - Keep giving birth to children beyond the carying capacity of the land they depend on.
2 - Don't make any efforts to increase the carrying capacity of their land.
3 - Sit and pray from soneone else to solve their problems and make no plans at all no even for short term.
4 - Have no problem accepting handouts and propaganda from NGO's that tell them the situation is someone elese's fault.
5 - See point 1.
Guess what, you can make your own ethanol for fuel from your house hold and garden waste. You can use ethanol as fuel if you have devices ready for it or use it for bio diesel (actual diesel), that is ethyl ester instead of methyl ester. You can also make your own caustic soda from garden waste. Unfortunately Unckle Sam is trying to sell us the idea that we need the same type of infrastructure used for gasoline with the only purpose of saving the value of mutual funds.
Sugarkane gives better yield, its easier and cheaper to process. The reason for this is that making sugar from sugar kane is very easy (thus the name). This begs the question, why make sugar from corn when its easier, cheaper and healthier to use sugar kane? I's rather keep corn as food for people and animals, sugar kane for healthy sugar and use vegetable waste from any crop for ethanol.
Green fuel disguised as "freedom fuel"Some criticism from the UN and suddenly US conservatives become fans of alternative energy.
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