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    Massachusetts GOP decries welfare voter registration effort as orchestrated to aid Dems in Senate race

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...chestrated-to/

    Nearly a half million welfare recipients in Massachusetts received voter registration letters from the state in the mail following a court settlement, but Republicans say it's a blatant political power move aimed at getting Democrats to the polls in November.

    State GOP leaders argue the aim is to support Democrat Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard professor now locked in a tight battle for the U.S. Senate seat now held by Republican Scott Brown.

    Roughly $275,000 in taxpayer money is the cost, but Brown's campaign argues the real smoking gun is that Warren's daughter, Amelia Warren Tyagi, sits on the board of Demos, an advocacy organization that acted as one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit that argued Massachusetts failed to meet federal requirements allowing people to sign up to vote when they register for public assistance.
    Read the rest of the article at the linked page.

    Personally, I think that your right to vote should be suspended so long as you are on public assistance.

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    'that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.' So if I was an American worker who found them self out of work and on welfare I would lose the right to vote while the (for example) the business owner who outsourced my job overseas would be allowed to vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Personally, I think that your right to vote should be suspended so long as you are on public assistance.
    Mrs. Miggins: Oh, has there been a general election, then, Mr. Blackadder?
    Edmund Blackadder: Indeed there has, Mrs. Miggins.
    Mrs. Miggins: Oh, well, I never heard about it.
    Edmund Blackadder: Well of course you didn't; you're not eligible to vote.
    Mrs. Miggins: Well, why not?
    Edmund Blackadder: Because virtually no-one is: women, peasants, (looks at Baldrick) chimpanzees (Baldrick looks behind himself, trying to see the animal), lunatics, Lords...
    Baldrick: That's not true -- Lord Nelson's got a vote!
    Edmund Blackadder: He's got a *boat*, Baldrick. Marvelous thing, democracy. Look at Manchester: population, 60,000; electoral roll, 3.

    This just came to mind (Black Adder III, Episode 1 Dish and Dishonesty)

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    There is an obvious and extreme conflict of interest when people on government assistance can effectively vote themselves more of other people's money. That is one of the things that is destroying this nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    There is an obvious and extreme conflict of interest when people on government assistance can effectively vote themselves more of other people's money. That is one of the things that is destroying this nation.
    what about the people who get "assistance" from the government in another form.

    like goldman sachs? do the execs who wont be prosecuted because of their political connections have a right to vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    There is an obvious and extreme conflict of interest when people on government assistance can effectively vote themselves more of other people's money. That is one of the things that is destroying this nation.
    I understand what you're getting at and gut feeling-wise I agree but in a true democracy such a policy of exemption cannot be maintained. The violation of democratic principles would be greater than the falsifying effects of a government binding voters with campaign goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    There is an obvious and extreme conflict of interest when people on government assistance can effectively vote themselves more of other people's money. That is one of the things that is destroying this nation.
    In Switzerland, 14 percent of parliamentarian are farmers, even though less than 3 percent of Swiss are farmers (full or in part). They receive huge subsidies. So all farmers should not be able to vote or be elected for office?

    I hardly doubt, that there is anyone in Switzerland who in one form or an other does not receive some benefits from the government. Hm, I'll shotgun the position as King of Switerland

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    One shouldn't lose the right to vote just because one is on Public Assistance. They have the right to take part in the electoral process to elect our leaders. The problem I see here is Warrens daughter running this IS a conflict of interest and the MA Board of Elections should have been smart enough to see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post

    Personally, I think that your right to vote should be suspended so long as you are on public assistance.
    I'm going to raise the stakes with an even more silly statement:

    People employed in the public sector, fx. LEO and military. Recieve their pay from the same jar of money, that people on welfare does. Should they not be entitled to vote either?

    Please don't stone me! :b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallap View Post
    I'm going to raise the stakes with an even more silly statement:

    People employed in the public sector, fx. LEO and military. Recieve their pay from the same jar of money, that people on welfare does. Should they not be entitled to vote either?

    Please don't stone me! :b
    US Military only got the right to vote absentee in 1944. Prior to that you had to be on furlough home to get to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Personally, I think that your right to vote should be suspended so long as you are on public assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    I understand what you're getting at and gut feeling-wise I agree but in a true democracy such a policy of exemption cannot be maintained. The violation of democratic principles would be greater than the falsifying effects of a government binding voters with campaign goodies.
    Except this isn't a democracy. It's a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC. As such we have the electoral college by which we actually elect our presidents. It was instituted to give the less populous states a more equal chance of influencing the vote against the power of the more populous states.

    This at least gives those of us that work, pay taxes, and have to support those that would take more of our hard earned money the possibility of keeping us from reaching the tipping point that would end this country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallap View Post
    I'm going to raise the stakes with an even more silly statement:

    People employed in the public sector, fx. LEO and military. Recieve their pay from the same jar of money, that people on welfare does. Should they not be entitled to vote either?

    Please don't stone me! :b
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