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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt View Post
    "So what was the last message on English buses that advertised a rally to destroy a country?"

    "If a Jewish group wanted to put Happy Hannukah on the side of 450 buses it would somehow be rejected. If a Jewish group wanted to advertise" One minute for Munich" on this side of the buses it would of been rejected somehow."

    You implied we'd only allow this to go ahead because it targets the Jews.
    The statement was geared towards those responsible for placing advertisements on buses. This was not geared towards you or John Smith down the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    The statement was geared towards those responsible for placing advertisements on buses. This was not geared towards you or John Smith down the street.
    Fair enough. So you disagree with the message (as do many), but what actual grounds are there to take down an advert for a solidarity walk, that has been paid for by the customer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyslapper View Post
    I'm genuinely trying to understand your point of view.

    I've looked up Al Quds day, and some of it is inflamatory, but most of it is perfectly justified, if carried out in a peaceful way.

    What is happening with respect to the adverts, and to the proposed gathering is both lawful and peaceful. At no point on the advert, or on the website it promoted, or on the majority of other al quds websites which poppped up on google suggested anything like the hysterics you're typing.
    I guess we will wait and see how the event plays out. But Ive seen a few of these type protests in my day. Hopefully youtube will interview some of these protestors and they will share their feelings openly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    I guess we will wait and see how the event plays out. But Ive seen a few of these type protests in my day. Hopefully youtube will interview some of these protestors and they will share their feelings openly.
    Many of them will indeed be ****heads, but that's not TFLs problem, nor does it say anything political about them. They were paid to run an advert for the walk, so they did. They really don't care whether you're advertising a sale at H&M, holidays to France or a demonstration about whatever the cool kids protest about these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    I guess we will wait and see how the event plays out. But Ive seen a few of these type protests in my day. Hopefully youtube will interview some of these protestors and they will share their feelings openly.
    There's tons of photos and videos on the internet of previous Al Quds days in London.

    All of them were peaceful, and there also seems to have been a strong attendance from Jews who were in agreement with the message of the event.

    The official website even goes out of its way to state that it is not an attack on Jews or on Judaism, but is against what it terms Israeli Apartheid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt View Post
    Fair enough. So you disagree with the message (as do many), but what actual grounds are there to take down an advert for a solidarity walk, that has been paid for by the customer?
    None, my opinion is immaterial at the moment. And as its freedom of speech, I stay silent. But I raise my eyebrow on where the English government stands on this. Because, don't you think if some organization wanted to march with a message of replacing a country, that the government would not step in so it does not convey the wrong message?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    I guess we will wait and see how the event plays out. But Ive seen a few of these type protests in my day. Hopefully youtube will interview some of these protestors and they will share their feelings openly.
    Why is that relevant? We know that most Arabs would like Israel destroyed, nothing new here. But as long as that is not what the demonstration is officially about, it is legal.
    And why should advertising for a legal demonstration not be allowed? They can have their demonstration but they must not advertise for it? That makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    None, my opinion is immaterial at the moment. And as its freedom of speech, I stay silent. But I raise my eyebrow on where the English government stands on this. Because, don't you think if some organization wanted to march with a message of replacing a country, that the government would not step in so it does not convey the wrong message?
    Its nothing new here in a functioning democracy, we have had anti Qaddafi marches (one police officer killed) anti Iran, anti Chinese govt and a whole host of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timetraveller View Post
    What i find hillarious is that ... of all the locations in this planet we live on ... A London bus with a advert mentioning the word / reference about Palestine ends up being news on a Israeli website ..
    Agreed! What I find particularly irritating, is all the rhetoric and whining - bringing up the past - that follows in the Jewish media whenever some feathers are ruffled. I see no need or benefit to cry out a peaceful demonstration is some form of a threat.

    This very DEEP and TROUBLING FEAR of the Jewish people - I am in my mid-50s and have seen and studied the generations of living in fear - and it finally dawned on me that this is NOT our problem! OIL ADDICTION - that's our problem and there is no easy, fast or convenient way out.

    The stubborn mentality of the Jewish people seems to be creating more anxiety - look at the darn advertisement, ask yourselves if Israeli Jews are worse off today than they were ten to twenty years ago and then - look at who and what is behind this HUGE Department of Homeland Security and the nexus of events that created it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    I have been called foolish but I'm still wondering what other countries have been broadcasted on buses to be destroyed other than Israel? The ideology of the 450 buses carrying this message is for Israel to be destroyed in replace of Palestine and with their profess love of Hizbollah; destroying the jews as well. I will wait for the pictures to see if this march is truly indeed about the events of 1948.
    You and I and many others recognize the Al Qud's objective for what it truly is.

    However, unfortunately, Al Quds have cleverly wrapped their message in legal and social acceptable language; the wolf is in sheep's clothing. And, this is a perfect example of anti-Israel agitation via lawfare and social media.

    The response is not to fight the principle of freedom of speech, but to use that principle to advocate our own cause.

    TFL will realize that it is not in its interest to publish anti-Israel propaganda by a social and economic response. Attacking TFL's policies or claiming anti-Semitism plays into the hands of Al Quds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Vanilla View Post
    Agreed! What I find particularly irritating, is all the rhetoric and whining - bringing up the past - that follows in the Jewish media whenever some feathers are ruffled. I see no need or benefit to cry out a peaceful demonstration is some form of a threat.

    This very DEEP and TROUBLING FEAR of the Jewish people - I am in my mid-50s and have seen and studied the generations of living in fear - and it finally dawned on me that this is NOT our problem! OIL ADDICTION - that's our problem and there is no easy, fast or convenient way out.

    The stubborn mentality of the Jewish people seems to be creating more anxiety - look at the darn advertisement, ask yourselves if Israeli Jews are worse off today than they were ten to twenty years ago and then - look at who and what is behind this HUGE Department of Homeland Security and the nexus of events that created it in the first place.
    Too bad so sad for you if the stubborn mentality of the Jewish people troubles you.

    Otherwise, WTF are you rambling on about?

    What does the US Dept. of Homeland Security or oil addiction have to do with this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Vanilla View Post
    Agreed! What I find particularly irritating, is all the rhetoric and whining - bringing up the past - that follows in the Jewish media whenever some feathers are ruffled. I see no need or benefit to cry out a peaceful demonstration is some form of a threat.
    Moron, it's troubling because it's allowed to happen in a western country, which proclaims to fight terror and such. Islamist calling for destruction of Israel on its own is about as exciting as sun going up in the morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Vanilla View Post
    This very DEEP and TROUBLING FEAR of the Jewish people - I am in my mid-50s and have seen and studied the generations of living in fear - and it finally dawned on me that this is NOT our problem! OIL ADDICTION - that's our problem and there is no easy, fast or convenient way out.

    The stubborn mentality of the Jewish people seems to be creating more anxiety - look at the darn advertisement, ask yourselves if Israeli Jews are worse off today than they were ten to twenty years ago and then - look at who and what is behind this HUGE Department of Homeland Security and the nexus of events that created it in the first place.
    How about you go and fvck yourself? I am deeply regretting if this sounded too stubborn for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDF_TANKER View Post
    Moron, it's troubling because it's allowed to happen in a western country, which proclaims to fight terror and such.
    So on what grounds should the TFL not run an advert for a protest march, which was paid for? See post #65.

    Quote Originally Posted by IDF_TANKER View Post
    How about you go and fvck yourself? I am deeply regretting if this sounded too stubborn for you.
    I agree the rest of his post was retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt View Post
    So on what grounds should the TFL not run an advert for a protest march, which was paid for? See post #65.
    I have nothing to add to GB and Tanks post at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    I guess we will wait and see how the event plays out. But Ive seen a few of these type protests in my day. Hopefully youtube will interview some of these protestors and they will share their feelings openly.
    If they do, which they probably will then report them to the police or sue them or what ever. But as long as they follow the law they have the same right to protest and advertise as anyone else, or do you think that certain views should be illeagal?
    That opinions should be registered and a censorship should review all publications and broadcasts? Which political views are ok in that case? How about religion? Or pictures of scantly clad women? Or gay couples on TV? Or greenpeace posters?

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