Tactical .30-30 -- I am serious.

[Einhander]

Levers are the icons, so to speak. It's sad to see them this desecrated..

[Laconian]

I can see Ghost Ring sights and a Ported Barrel, and a general polishing up of the action to make cycling smoother, Buttpad, Stock shell holder, maybe the large Loop aka John Wayne

Along with a metal finish (like Robar) and a synthetic stock, that is pretty much how the hopped up guns looked. This was before rails and telescoping stocks and reflexive sights were around.

I agree it is a fugly looking rifle.

[T3ngu]

If I lived down under, I would think that a lever gun would be your best option for a fighting rifle. Personally, I like the Browning BLR in .308. The BLR is going to cost a lot more than the Mossberg, but the range and accuracy is significantly better. You can even get a take-down model. As much as I prefer .30-06, you can no longer get surplus ammo consistently in that caliber, but surplus 7.62mm NATO is usually available. And, of course, since the BLR uses a box mag, you can use pointy bullets.

Good recommendation I have one (well my brother used to have it) in 223. Handy little gun, but you are right, 308 would be a better option. I want a scrub gun, read something i can throw in the back of the ute and not worry about the optics. Having said that, my 303 brit does that job.

[armored_diplomacy]

I refer to my tactical RPD response - does everything have to be tactical these days?

I have a rusty old hatchet sitting around...

I googled "what makes a gun tactical?" and from another forum I found this (which from now on will enlight me on these matters)

I think the word "tactical" is incredibly overused in the firearms industry. The word is more of a marketing ploy than anything else. Stick the word "tactical" on a gun, and folks want the product even more. To me, "tactical" is the way the gun is employed rather than any specific features. In the hands of someone who know how to use it, a S&W Mod 66 is more "tactical" than a HK Mk 23 in the hands of someone who does not know how to employ it, IMHO.



Tactical: any maneuvers for gaining advantage or success.
Using the definition, if you are trying to drive a nail in a 2x4, using a hammer could be described as "tactical". There are "tactical" knives that don't have a light rail or whatever. It seems that when they add the word "tactical" to any product, it turns it into "tacticool" and makes it more desireable and therefore, more sellable to the "Mall Ninja's" and "Internet Commando's".

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[Troubadour]

My favorite part about it is the top ejection port... after all the rails and everything, they make using an optic on it impractical.

[Corrupt]

If I lived down under,

Here in the Uk my end of the world gun will be a Mauser or an Enfield most likely. Well it served my Great Grandfather in Afghanistan, it'll do me

[Troubadour]

Here in the Uk my end of the world gun will be a Mauser or an Enfield most likely. Well it served my Great Grandfather in Afghanistan, it'll do me

Is there anyone who hasn't fought in Afghanistan at this point?

[Ought Six]

Here in the Uk my end of the world gun will be a Mauser or an Enfield most likely. Well it served my Great Grandfather in Afghanistan, it'll do me

I have an FN Mauser in .30-06. It is a refurbished Chilean Army surplus rifle, and has a straight bolt handle. I put a 'scout scope' on it so it can still use stripper clips for quick reloading. It is actually capable of keeping up a pretty decent rate of fire.

[shermbodius]

I'll pass, seems to futuristic to me.

[Ought Six]

Good recommendation I have one (well my brother used to have it) in 223. Handy little gun, but you are right, 308 would be a better option. I want a scrub gun, read something i can throw in the back of the ute and not worry about the optics. Having said that, my 303 brit does that job.

The BLR takedown is available in stainless steel with a laminated stock, finishes you would not have to worry about. Whether you decide to mount optics is up to you.

The big advantages of the BLR are the box mag, which allows spitzer-profile bullets, and the rotary bolt lockup, which allows the rifle to handle high-pressure and even magnum rifle cartridges while offering increased accuracy.

[been]

Saw this awhile back. It is still as stupid as it was then.

[Rattfink]

My favorite part about it is the top ejection port... after all the rails and everything, they make using an optic on it impractical.

Am I the only person in the world that thinks optics for "tactical" shooting is overrated? I gave an issued ACOG a whirl...tried my friend's EOTECH...just plain don't like them. I'll keep my iron sights.

[Ought Six]

Am I the only person in the world that thinks optics for "tactical" shooting is overrated? I gave an issued ACOG a whirl...tried my friend's EOTECH...just plain don't like them. I'll keep my iron sights.

When your eyes get older, you will begin to appreciate optics a lot more.

[Troubadour]

Am I the only person in the world that thinks optics for "tactical" shooting is overrated? I gave an issued ACOG a whirl...tried my friend's EOTECH...just plain don't like them. I'll keep my iron sights.

You're not the only one, but you're one of the few. I enjoy shooting with iron sights, because it's fun, but I'd rather have optics. It makes life simpler.

[T3ngu]

You're not the only one, but you're one of the few. I enjoy shooting with iron sights, because it's fun, but I'd rather have optics. It makes life simpler.

I dropped a big boar on the run with my lee Enfield a while back. Iron sights are not my first choice for shooting now days. For small game its fine, but the bigger stuff doesn't appreciate getting shot so shot placement is paramount.