Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 47

Thread: [BREAKING] Germany: Constitutional Court allows domestic deployment of military

  1. #1
    buck duck huck luck muck puck ruck suck tuck yuck fuuuuuuuu muck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Beim Barte des Proleten!
    Posts
    14,229

    Default [BREAKING] Germany: Constitutional Court allows domestic deployment of military

    Just came in over DADP news ticker...

    Germany's Constitutional Court has issued a landmark decision regarding the domestic deployment of the German military, declaring it "constitutional in principle". The nation's most supreme court's decision comes as a big surprise in a debate that has split the country since the G8 summit in Northern Germany five years ago where soldiers were called in to assist police forces in matters indirectly related to law enforcement. However, the judges said the domestic deployment of the military could only be constitutional if needed to respond to "imminent threats to the national security on an unprecedented scale".

    Oh... this is going to be fun.

  2. #2
    member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Banned user
    Posts
    6,213

    Default

    I see nothing wrong with that...a couple of Panzers rolling through the streets of Berlin is not a problem...or is it?

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    République de Louisiane
    Posts
    115

    Default

    You do know that this information is from 2008...? Or so a quick Google-Fu tells me.

  4. #4
    Bro Impartial Bias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    A societal paradox is that both liberals and conservatives feel they have it all figured out.
    Age
    18
    Posts
    2,177

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormz_STA View Post
    I see nothing wrong with that...a couple of Panzers rolling through the streets of Berlin is not a problem...or is it?
    No, T-34's and IS-2's are.

  5. #5
    Senior Member pocoloco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    NORC
    Age
    37
    Posts
    8,135

    Default

    ^Yip, Storms, you should not worry. Poland is not domestic part of Germany

  6. #6
    Senior Member Astaran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Eurogeddon
    Age
    28
    Posts
    3,673

    Default

    Wow, can we now expect a series of fatal heart-attacks among the usual suspects?

    Tbh, I can't see what should be wrong with this ruling. We're talking about "imminent threats to the national security on an unprecedented scale" and not about a platoon of Marders mowing done those 1st May rioters

  7. #7
    member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Banned user
    Posts
    6,213

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pocoloco View Post
    ^Yip, Storms, you should not worry. Poland is not domestic part of Germany
    Thank God for that!

  8. #8
    Senior Member Seiyuuki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Water Curtain Cave on Flower Fruit Mountain
    Posts
    3,627

    Default

    Does Germany have something similar to the Posse Comitatus Act?

  9. #9
    Pining for a custom title PEMM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Im out of bananas and licorice
    Age
    23
    Posts
    7,094

    Default

    I can't see what would be wrong with this. Its only logical.

    We've had laws for pretty long now.

  10. #10
    Banned user
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    good question. I have no idea
    Posts
    682

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pocoloco View Post
    ^Yip, Storms, you should not worry. Poland is not domestic part of Germany
    Not yet... not yet

  11. #11
    buck duck huck luck muck puck ruck suck tuck yuck fuuuuuuuu muck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Beim Barte des Proleten!
    Posts
    14,229

    Default

    More and more details come in over various German news outlets; the only exemption the judges upheld is the ban on using military forces against hijacked passenger planes.

    As for those of you how wonder what's the fuss... well. Apart from the dark days of Nazism we also had the dark days Communism and saw tanks rolling against our own people on our streets. It is an extremely delicate issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunfighter-AK View Post
    You do know that this information is from 2008...? Or so a quick Google-Fu tells me.
    Nope... it isn't. The court issued the decision at 9:30 am GMT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiyuuki View Post
    Does Germany have something similar to the Posse Comitatus Act?
    The military was always allowed to render technical assistance to state and federal authorities particularly in the event of natural disasters, but we've also seen reconnaissance planes being used to search for a kidnapped child for example. It's been a legal limbo up to now.
    However, military forces could have never taken over law enforcement duties unless in the event of all-out war and under state of emergency.

  12. #12

    Default

    If the society works fine and is ruled and regulated to certain standards nothing is wrong with this decision. The fear is that a kind of unprecedented national threat can be created to use the military and overthrow the government or something like that.

    The point is that if there are tendencies in the society and military to reach for power through a military coup, or use the armed forces as a suppression tool, they would do that regardless what the state of law is at the moment.

    Such a law would just make it a dim easier to achieve that goal and help mask it for a short while. But it wouldn't enable nor avoid such a coup.

  13. #13
    Banned user
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    good question. I have no idea
    Posts
    682

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    As for those of you how wonder what's the fuss... well. Apart from the dark days of Nazism we also had the dark days Communism and saw tanks rolling against our own people on our streets. It is an extremely delicate issue.
    I've always been fascinated of how a country that only has been around since ~1871 can have such a 'colorful' history.
    The world should lose the WW2 attitude.

  14. #14
    buck duck huck luck muck puck ruck suck tuck yuck fuuuuuuuu muck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Beim Barte des Proleten!
    Posts
    14,229

    Default

    Germany's been around since way before 1871, and that contributed greatly to many of our problems in the 20th century. New constitutions or changes in the system of government don't make a country cease to exist.

    Anyways, the first regular news features are out now. Here's additional linkage in case the German speakers among you are interested: Link

  15. #15
    Senior Member Astaran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Eurogeddon
    Age
    28
    Posts
    3,673

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Germany's been around since way before 1871, and that contributed greatly to many of our problems in the 20th century. New constitutions or changes in the system of government don't make a country cease to exist.

    Anyways, the first regular news features are out now. Here's additional linkage in case the German speakers among you are interested: Link
    Wow, the commentaries are "golden". Sometimes I wonder if all hope for Germany is already lost

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •