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    Default Jewish settler attacks on Palestinians listed as 'terrorist incidents' by US

    Israeli leaders condemn recent extremist violence, the growth of which human rights groups blame on lack of law enforcement

    Violence by Jewish settlers has been cited for the first time in a list of "terrorist incidents" in a US state department annual report, as Israeli political leaders condemned a string of recent attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank and Jerusalem.

    The inclusion of assaults on Palestinian targets in the report on terrorism reflects growing concern in Israel and the international community that violence by a minority of Jewish extremists could trigger a new cycle of conflict and further damage the prospects of a peace agreement between the two sides.

    "Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers against Palestinian residents, property and places of worship in the West Bank continued," said the Country Reports on Terrorism 2011 . It referred to "price tag" operations, meaning violence committed by radical settlers against Palestinians in retribution for actions by the Israeli government or army deemed to be "anti-settler".

    US and European officials have become more vocal in criticising settler violence amid fears that the actions of a minority of Jewish extremists could provoke a militant response from Palestinians. According to UN, violent attacks by settlers on Palestinians and their property, mosques and farmland has increased by almost 150% since 2009.
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    The Guardian....


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    Quote Originally Posted by squidO View Post
    The Guardian....
    Hate Israel with a "lopsided Scandinavian intensity"..
    What an idiot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    Hate Israel with a "lopsided Scandinavian intensity"..
    What an idiot..
    Which of these 5 words is causing you objections, expressed in such sharp terms?

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    To avoid any confusion or manipulation of this story, the position of the GOI needs to be highlighted:

    Israeli politicians were also swift in their condemnation. The prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, said it was a "very serious incident", and on Sunday, Moshe Ya'alon, minister for strategic affairs, described it as "a terrorist attack".

    He linked the firebombing to a separate incident in Jerusalem at the weekend, in which a Palestinian youth was severely beaten by dozens of Jewish teenagers, who witnesses said were searching for Arabs to attack.

    "The hate crimes committed over the weekend against Arabs in Judea and Samaria [the biblical terms for the West Bank] and Jerusalem are intolerable, outrageous and must be firmly dealt with," Ya'alon said. "These are terrorist attacks. They run contrary to Jewish morality and values, and constitute first and foremost an educational and moral failure."

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidO View Post
    Which of these 5 words is causing you objections, expressed in such sharp terms?
    The five of them in the combination and context that he used them.

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    But no matter if you support Israel or not the attacks by Israeli jews on other people living both on the WB and in other areas of Israel IS a huge PR problem. Due to the current situation Israelis need to be holier and more rightous then anyone can possible expect unless they are willing to take massive flak, even by Israeli standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    But no matter if you support Israel or not the attacks by Israeli jews on other people living both on the WB and in other areas of Israel IS a huge PR problem.

    The thing is that here in Israel it is because of ethics and the rule of law that the authorities go after such people and prosecute them... not because of PR.

    Due to the current situation Israelis need to be holier and more rightous then anyone can possible expect unless they are willing to take massive flak, even by Israeli standards.
    If people expect Jews to be holier than the Pope then that is their problem...
    Last edited by EITAN88; 08-20-2012 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    The thing is that here in Israel it is because of ethics and the rule of law that the authorities go after such people and prosecute them... not because of PR.
    I never said anything else, I just claimed that attacks on palestinians by Jewish settlers is a PR problem, mainly due to the fact that the legitimacy of the settlers is highly questioned around the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    If people expect Jews to be holier than the Pope then that is their problem...
    I never said that it wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    I never said anything else, I just claimed that attacks on palestinians by Jewish settlers is a PR problem, mainly due to the fact that the legitimacy of the settlers is highly questioned around the world.
    Perhaps... then again if Israelis got too worried everytime our 'legitimacy' was questioned we'd be making things a lot harder on ourselves than we are actually supposed to.


    I never said that it wasn't.
    And I never said that you were, just letting people know.

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    Hate Crimes I can see but calling vandalism terrorism is trivializing the word. Just Arab/leftist pandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
    Hate Crimes I can see but calling vandalism terrorism is trivializing the word. Just Arab/leftist pandering.
    Regarding the "price tag" vandalism, yes. but a few days ago, apperantly a settler throw a molotov at a Palestinian taxi carrying a family and there is no doubt about that act's defenition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
    Hate Crimes I can see but calling vandalism terrorism is trivializing the word. Just Arab/leftist pandering.
    Had you bothered to read what was written you would have noticed that ministers in the Israeli government called it terrorism, not the arabs (although they probably agree).

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