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    Quote Originally Posted by California Joe View Post
    I bring it up every time we have one of these dumbass threads. Barry Goldwater's wife started the first Planned Parenthood in Arizona. Think about it. Planning a pregnancy for when you can support the child, is a decidedly conservative idea.

    Nobody I know thinks abortion is a great idea for anyone concerned. But I think that women should simply have the choice. Period. Full stop. Unencumbered by legislation written by a bunch of old men like this ignorant douchebag. I have great respect for people who believe in the sanctity of life as a religious and personal stance. But not as blanket legislation.
    Honestly, for me, it's the old saying, you can do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else. I guess I just recognized that there is someone else involved here, and that human life is pretty defenseless. I don't see it as anti-woman, just more pro-child. I'm not out carrying signs or proselytizing, but there are a lot of people who feel that way, and aren't out there bombing clinics (truly ironic) or in anyone's face, that's just what they believe is right. As far as planning, prevention, sure full speed ahead. Not all pro-lifers are nuts, not all feminists are man haters, not all NRA members are "extremists".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Amen.......
    Great post Mojo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Createdeemcee View Post
    If you have unwilling *** with your wife its not rape and everyone knows that!
    If you didn't want to sleep with her, why'd you marry her in the first place?

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    Just saw this on FB. Delete if repost or poor source please.



    Rep. Steve King: I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/steve-king-statutory-rape.php?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ppactionfb




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    Quote Originally Posted by riderboy View Post
    Honestly, for me, it's the old saying, you can do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else. I guess I just recognized that there is someone else involved here, and that human life is pretty defenseless. I don't see it as anti-woman, just more pro-child. I'm not out carrying signs or proselytizing, but there are a lot of people who feel that way, and aren't out there bombing clinics (truly ironic) or in anyone's face, that's just what they believe is right. As far as planning, prevention, sure full speed ahead. Not all pro-lifers are nuts, not all feminists are man haters, not all NRA members are "extremists".
    Id be more pro life if we had more measures in place to take care of the unwanted kids, or give parents ALOT of assistance for an unwanted baby or baby that they cant afford. But then again, a safety net like that is going to cost the government a pretty penny. And lets say we ban abortion, expand social programs, etc.. why should I PAY for that? This is a bit of a conundrum..

    Do we AS A NATION take care of the unwanted kids as well as the distraught parents by forking over a lil bit more in your check each pay period?
    Or do we let these women decide on their own whether or not they are prepared to be a parent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin84 View Post
    Id be more pro life if we had more measures in place to take care of the unwanted kids, or give parents ALOT of assistance for an unwanted baby or baby that they cant afford. But then again, a safety net like that is going to cost the government a pretty penny. And lets say we ban abortion, expand social programs, etc.. why should I PAY for that? This is a bit of a conundrum..

    Do we AS A NATION take care of the unwanted kids as well as the distraught parents by forking over a lil bit more in your check each pay period?
    Or do we let these women decide on their own whether or not they are prepared to be a parent.
    Well, good questions. I would rather pay for a child then some asswipe in California who bought too much house and now expects me to pay his mortgage!

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    They cut to the quick
    “Being violently coerced into having *** was the worst thing that’s ever happened to me, so I take comfort in knowing it wasn’t actually rape,” Byars said of the vicious encounter in which she was accosted in an alleyway by a stranger, pinned to the ground, and penetrated against her will for 25 minutes. “It was absolutely horrific—I felt violated in the worst way imaginable—but thanks to Congressman Akin, I now realize it must, at some level, have been consensual after all.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by riderboy View Post
    Honestly, for me, it's the old saying, you can do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else. I guess I just recognized that there is someone else involved here, and that human life is pretty defenseless. I don't see it as anti-woman, just more pro-child.
    The ethics become a lot easier when you ditch the concept of the soul. Simplifies lots of other pointless philosophical tangles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskachig View Post
    The ethics become a lot easier when you ditch the concept of the soul. Simplifies lots of other pointless philosophical tangles as well.
    Ditching the concept of the soul. Interesting - What a dark cold world that must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riderboy View Post
    Well, good questions. I would rather pay for a child then some asswipe in California who bought too much house and now expects me to pay his mortgage!
    Hey, at least Nevada is beating us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Ditching the concept of the soul. Interesting - What a dark cold world that must be.
    Aside from not having to jump through philosophical hoops to make sense of your worldview, life is exactly the same. The world is beautiful, sun is shining, girls are pretty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskachig View Post
    Aside from not having to jump through philosophical hoops to make sense of your worldview, life is exactly the same. The world is beautiful, sun is shining, girls are pretty...
    I have a soul and it's likely you're Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I have a soul and it's likely you're Asian.
    Ginger!

    Really, a thoroughly assimilated California surf town Russian.

    You might have a soul or not, but your subjective experience of life is going to be the same regardless, and defined by your mind rather than anything else. Maybe you do have a soul, you can't really check. But if you did or didn't, would anything feel different? Feelings are function of the mind/brain anyway, they will work soul or no soul. Thoughts, plans, hopes, fears, too. I guess there is that whole immortal life thing, but that doesn't come in play until later. For the most part, the concept of the soul doesn't explain anything, but adds all kinds of wrinkles - like forcing one into substance dualism, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Joe View Post
    I bring it up every time we have one of these dumbass threads. Barry Goldwater's wife started the first Planned Parenthood in Arizona. Think about it. Planning a pregnancy for when you can support the child, is a decidedly conservative idea.

    Nobody I know thinks abortion is a great idea for anyone concerned. But I think that women should simply have the choice. Period. Full stop. Unencumbered by legislation written by a bunch of old men like this ignorant douchebag. I have great respect for people who believe in the sanctity of life as a religious and personal stance. But not as blanket legislation.

    Good points.. x2 !!!!

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