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    The United States and Pakistan should stop pretending they are allies and amicably "divorce," Pakistan's former ambassador to Washington said on Wednesday, citing unrealistic expectations in both countries that include U.S. hopes Islamabad will sever its links to extremists.

    "If in 65 years, you haven't been able to find sufficient common ground to live together, and you had three separations and four reaffirmations of marriage, then maybe the better way is to find friendship outside of the marital bond," Husain Haqqani said, addressing the Center for the National Interest, a Washington think tank.
    Haqqani's recommendation that the United States and Pakistan essentially downgrade their status was based on the premise that it may be the only way to break from what has been a dysfunctional relationship.

    A post-alliance future would allow both countries to hold more realistic expectations of each other, cooperating where possible but perhaps without the sense of betrayal, which has become acute in Pakistan.


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    http://www. r e u t e r s .com/article/2012/08/23/us-usa-pakistan-envoy-idUSBRE87M00V20120823

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    I'm still surprised the US let those fanatics have nukes, i prefer N.Korea having nukes than those wackos,..

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    Im glad someone in Pakistan has the same mindset as me regarding that. The whole idea of a terrorist supporting state that has supported terrorism against the US a "Non-NATO ally" seems very, very stupid and wrong all at the same time.

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    Don't think so highly of your country Mr. Haqquani.
    As if anyone still thinks you're an ally.
    I'm sure no one will give a **** about Pakistan after the withdrawal.

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    Well, Pakistan and Mr. Hack aren’t going to be very happy about what happens next. But maybe they are actually preparing to take some real action in N. Wiristan. Hope so

    If they want to be cut off from their only funding… let’s do it, and deal with the supply lines.
    Last edited by Jacknola; 08-22-2012 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crush6655 View Post
    I'm still surprised the US let those fanatics have nukes, i prefer N.Korea having nukes than those wackos,..
    We have contigency plans.The Pakistani nuclear arenal would literally be swiped from underneath them.

    All terrorist trails always end up to one place.That is Pakistan.The rat line.This is one country that should not exist.It is a failed state and a disease to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crush6655 View Post
    I'm still surprised the US let those fanatics have nukes, i prefer N.Korea having nukes than those wackos,..
    AQ Khan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uruzu View Post
    Don't think so highly of your country Mr. Haqquani.
    As if anyone still thinks you're an ally.
    I'm sure no one will give a **** about Pakistan after the withdrawal.
    I bet the US is already a lot more concerned with the future of Pakistan, than the future of Afghanistan. And Pakistan will probably have no trouble getting more money from washington in the future. 'Keeping the nukes safe', 'fighting the AQ', etc.

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    Edit: Sorry double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntcap View Post
    We have contigency plans.The Pakistani nuclear arenal would literally be swiped from underneath them.

    All terrorist trails always end up to one place.That is Pakistan.The rat line.This is one country that should not exist.It is a failed state and a disease to the world.
    I honestly doubt that's the case.

    Politicians will tell you there's a feasible plan in place to safeguard the arsenal from rogue generals or extremest elements to let you sleep at night, but think about what's actually involved to be able to do that.

    Highly, highly unlikely.

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    An interesting article, by a Pakistani, about how India is outpacing Pakistan in influence in Afghanistan and why. The fact that Afghanistan has been subjected to two decades of Pakistani military attack, terror, occupation, and that even the Afghan Pashtuns hate Pakistan with a passion helps. It will be a long time if ever, Pakistan recovers from their “great game” stupidity.

    Competing in Afghanistan.
    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...2-8-2009_pg3_3

    But to illustrate how foolish and backward that country really is, here are two jems from Pakistsans high in the government that:

    (1) Admit Pakistan government uses terrorist activity as a policy of the State, and will not quit;
    (2) Blames their own internal terrorism on external plots… yet again ... Whining, blame, lies and/or self-delusion extends to the highest levels of the Pakistani government.

    http://dawn.com/2012/08/23/malik-responds-with-threat-on-taliban-resolve-against-operation/

    “...It is known that Maulana Fazlullah and Maulvi Faqir are operating from Kunar province of Afghanistan. It would not have been possible for them to carry out attacks on this side of the border, kill our people and take back their own injured without active foreign support,” said Malik.

    http://dawn.com/2012/08/23/us-pakist...usain-haqqani/
    "...He said it was just as unrealistic for Pakistanis to think that the United States would side with Pakistan by launching war on India as it was for the United States to think Pakistan would give up its nuclear weapons or sever ties with extremists. Equally unrealistic is that Pakistan … will give up support for jihadi groups that it deems to be a subconventional force multiplier for regional influence,”

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