Reply With Quotesounds like crap to me
Upfall
http://www.upfallbook.com/
Hopefully, not a repost.
Brilliant but troubled Israeli scientist Benny Feldhandler develops a time displacement transport device intended to secretly deploy a crack IDF commando sayeret to the hottest trouble spots. What neither the IDF nor the commandos understand is that Feldhandler has other plans…to transport the sayeret into the most searing trouble spot of all–the Nazi death camps of 1942 Poland!
Even if it is no better or worse than other fictional works on gratuitous killing of Nazis like Inglorious Bastards or the Dirty Dozen, it should be a good read.
Last edited by GB_FXST; 08-25-2012 at 10:57 PM.
sounds like crap to me
Just an idea - and I know its radical - but if you do not like the subject matter, do not read the book.Originally Posted by o2o2243
sounds like crap to me
I saw this book on Amazon. Sounds like a IDF vision of the Axis Of Time trilogy. Has anyone here read the book? Once I get settled in my new project I will order it.
Idea is crap. Why transport to 1942 instead of going farther in history to prevent it from happening by killing Hitler and other nazi leaders before they got to power for example?
Back in the day, I was a big fan of Dr. Who. I then learned that appreciating this sort of sci-fi require suspension of certain critical thinking skills. And that is okay.
I have not yet read the book, but suspect it is just nothing more than what I said in my first post: fictional works on gratuitous killing of Nazis. Wolfenstein in literature. If that is all it is, fine. If it has some historial context, then all the better.
Just so we are clear I know that Inglorious Bastards is crap. I still enjoy it.
Where Eagles Dare was on TV recently. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen it. But, I never ever tire of Eastwood blowing up Nazis with sticks of dynamite.
If they would get there by some random chance, then it would be ok. But specifically sending them there makes no sense. There are books that interesting to read, but only when one turns off one brain when looking at basic idea of them. They have good plot development, but ground idea makes no sense what so ever. And for some people overcoming this fatal flaw is very hard, so they never finish the book even if it is good farther on, since basic idea has no logic behind it.
When it comes to this kind of plot I never get the grip. What is a "time displacement transport device" supposed to be? Simply what we - collocquially - call a time machine? I mean, what good would it do to travel back in time and change historical events, only to travel back into one's "age of origin" where the erased part of history is still is a part of the past?
The book is Science fiction ... it's not even factual military history ,, it specifically deals with science fiction subject matter that of time travelling that has been featured in umpteen films and other books . how can that book be even contrived to be Military history related is beyond me ..
No doubt the writer was influenced by the film Samurai Commando ..
Timetraveller, right on cue (yes, pun is intended). How good to have an expert on the matter.
Epic, always wanted to read a time travel story about Israeli troops going back to WW2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUk42TYdP0I
I was so intrigued by the topic that I went ahead, purchased the ebook, and finished reading it last night (as I put it at the top of my reading list).
I did enjoy the read. While there is plenty of gratuitous Nazi killing and at times it is all a bit too sophomoric, the book is something more than just pulp fiction. I say that because the author does not sugar coat the logical limitations of the topic - luck runs out, weapons and ammunition run out, protagonists die, and the Nazis get their act together.
At the end, the reader has no choice but to wonder if the whole adventure did more harm than good because of its ultimate inherent futility and what is commonly known as the butterfly effect in the time-travel genre - or the law of unintended consequences.
Certainly, a far bit more intellectual stimulation that I originally expected.
Some other thoughts:
- The author's literary license with time travel is very broad. But, its a prop; he knows it is BS, and he knows that the reader knows that it is BS, and so does not belabor that it is BS.
- The author's detailed knowledge of Hebrew terminology and the IDF left a bit to be desired.
- To the author's credit, not every moral conflict in the story is in black and white.
- Nazis are Nazis, but they are not all incompetent and craven - again, to the author's credit.
- Regarding the question of going back to the source and eliminating Hitler, the author leaves numerous clues as to the pseudo-scientific and political reasons why this was not done.
I'm curious why Sayeret Maktal didn't go back and knock off Pharoah.
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