She was fvcked by Hamas, yes. Beyond that, she was aiding and abetting Hamas when she decided to stand in the way of that D9.Originally Posted by yohazem1
My point is Rachel had nothing to do with Hamas or for Hamas, this guy is making it sound like she was smuggling weopons for Hamas or something....and he has no clue about Hamas or Fatah, he only believes himself that he has experience haha, I'm not gonna argue with him about it
She was fvcked by Hamas, yes. Beyond that, she was aiding and abetting Hamas when she decided to stand in the way of that D9.
Nope, the Israeli court just decided today about her death, I didn't hear anything about Hamas in that ruling get real man
Rachel was what is known in English as a 'useful idiot'.
She might not have thought that she was helping Hamas and other elements by trying to obstruct IDF operations at the Philadelphi Route but that's what she was doing.
As for your opinion regarding my experience... well all I have to say in that regard is that the Gaza Strip is one the biggest sh*tholes I have had the misfortune to visit, especially the area around Rafah and can only feel sorry for you that you had to live there.
First of all, while I understand that you are from the Gaza Strip, don't assume that we don't know anything about Hamas and other groups, as most of us Israelis here, have served in the Gaza Strip at one point or another and fought against said groups.
As for Corrie, she was trying to stop the army from uncovering areas used by terrorist groups in order to fire at the IDF at the Philadelphi route and was a member of an organization that directly or indirectly, aided terrorist groups.
While I certainly don't think that she deserved to die, she was the only one responsible for her death and I won't lose any sleep over it.
1. Hamas is not and was not the only terrorist organization in the PA.
2. By her very actions, she was abating terrorist by obstructing the IDF efforts to find and destroy weapon smuggling tunnels.
3. I had no idea you sat in court when the judge read his ruling, good for you.
Warder
True. This however goes both ways, pro and anti Israel. And the Israel issue is amongst the most polarising in the world.
I only visit there, I never lived there I was born in America, I've been to luxurious places and I've been to gaza, rafah needs a lot of work, but I don't go there to curse people and their conditions, I have respect for people, and myself I couldn't care less about a nice place, that doesn't concern me, I again be in America for years and go to a 3rd world country for weeks it's not a problem to me
When Judge Gershon is describing a combat situation faced by the IDF, who do you think he is referencing by implication? Martians?The state, he continued, was not responsible for any "damages caused" due to the combat situation but nonetheless called Corrie's death a "regrettable accident."
1. Yes I know
2. It was a house demolition though
I'm glad the report touched on the operator visibility issue. I'm thinking the dozer in question is at least a D8 size. From experience (a lot), the forward vision from the operator's seat is basically top edge on the outside of the blade. She could have been on stilts in front of center of blade and been as visible to operator as if she had stayed home in Washington. The engine cowling, air intake and exhaust are huge on those machines and block all view. Somewhere I have a shot from inside a D11, which is larger, but has similar vision parameters.
She neednt have smuggled a single cartridge to provide Aid to terrorists. She gave them willingly Propaganda value even before she died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM
And being a useful idiot is no defense either.
So wait, let me get this straight.
You're an American that occasionally visits the Gaza strip, and somehow you have a deep analysis and knowledge (more than IDF veterans on this board apparently) about how Hamas operates. Being native to Gaza (your words, not mine) and visiting there for few weeks is not exactly the same thing.
There are quite a few holes in your story, amigo.
Yes I know, and I have met idf soldiers in gaza when they were there, especially at the border, and they didn't use that home...? Where did you get that from?
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