Reply With QuoteWho are these teachers with $350k+ and $380k+ salaries? I don't begrudge them having a great salary, but are these figures for real?
If you're a teacher in Illinois - Oh wow!
Interesting story with information from actual pension information. How nice that one guy will receive $27,000,000 in total retirement benefits....
http://dailybail.com/home/make-this-...te-pensio.html
Who are these teachers with $350k+ and $380k+ salaries? I don't begrudge them having a great salary, but are these figures for real?
Politics. Just look at the crooked Miami-Dade School Board. They get paid $250k+ for a part time job that they suck at.Originally Posted by T.Cruiser
Or other union jobs
http://www.workforcefreedom.com/blog...scam-taxpayers
The Chicago Tribune recently exposed a scheme in which 23 former unionized city employees stand to earn upwards of $56 million in pension benefits because of a sweetheart deal enacted by the Illinois legislature.
Chulo, maybe you need to find out what are union jobs and what are not union jobs.
Hint: Management, Administrators, any boss type job is not a union job.
Be nice if people can read. Those are not Teachers but administrators.
Last edited by Hollis; 09-22-2012 at 12:47 AM.
Guys guys guys...little misleading here. By using Google, it appears that all of these names are superintendents, not teachers. If you look closely, the school districts on the right side are all suburban Chicago and in districts flush with money. I'll let Harryc or SiempreLeal confirm that. It's no secret that educational administration in rich school districts commands a fuckton of money. I'm not saying it's right, but that's how it has been for a long time. Property taxes in these districts are sometimes out of this world, too.
John Harper has a PhD and is a superintendent for Plainfield, Mary Herrmann appears to also be a superintendent for Barrington, Mary Curley in Westmont also comes up as a superintendent. Etc. etc. etc. Teachers are still teachers. A friend's sister teaches in one of the districts mentioned. Is she getting rich off the deal and will she get a pension anywhere near these people mentioned? No. The headline is misleading, too. The vast majority of school districts in Illinois are poor and somewhat rural by comparison. A few school districts in Chicagoland have lots of money, and just like everyone else in the private and public sector alike, they throw a lot of money at leadership and administration positions and give them the requisite golden parachute for retirement. Don't believe for a second this has anything to do with the teacher's strike in Chicago.
[edit] Thanks Hollis for beating me to it and being fair. I know some of these districts and how much money they've got. Being from Joliet and Morris I can tell you not everyone has that kind of money.
Hollis,
It doesn't matter, they are covered by the same teacher's pension fund. Most are educators who were once classroom teachers.
(Nov, 2010 )nice tool to find salaries of principals, administrators etc....
http://www.suntimes.com/data/2427665...-salaries.html
THis story came out last summer I believe. The unfunded pension liabilitiesin Chicago/ Illinois are a serious problem. And it's only getting worse
It DOES matter. You are taking literally a handful of people in a position to earn ridiculous pensions, and using that to assail teachers in general. As if Jane Doe, Middle School Art Teacher extraordinaire is making 6 figures with a multi million dollar retirement plan.
Thats like saying the military never needs a pay raise cause all the 4 stars are making 6 figures.
It totally matters. Don't be disingenuous.
Are these superintendent or management conditions negotiated as part of the union contract? If yes, the I see the concern. But in my experience with unions, maybe 1st line supervisors are covered but after that management negotiations are handled by individual contract or by a management org.
If a wealthy school district wants to negotiate those types of deals it is up to the voters/tax payers to keep a leash on local spending.
I don't understand why anyone would begrudge another persons pension. If you earn it ..you earn it. It's within the law.. so be it.
I get pension from the US DoD..Navy retired pay. I retired when I was 37 years old and 11 months.. I estimate that in the last 21 years I've received $277,200.
Agreed with BD, and teaching is no easy job.
I can only imagine how much harder it is in a run down area or inner city.
The problem is that many state, county, local, federal and even private pension funds cannot support the amount of people drawing retirements for as long as they do on the amount of money coming into the fund. We are rapidly approaching the point where these entities cannot sustain these obligations. Recently, the USPS faced a huge problem because Congress was asking them to put aside, up front, benefits monies that are do to be paid out years from now.
We simply cannot afford to pay people for not working (retired) for longer than they worked. As a fed employee, I know this is coming. The days of a defined benefit are going to come to an end.
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