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    Default Bread is not healthy anymore : Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says

    Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says


    (CBS News) Modern wheat is a "perfect, chronic poison," according to Dr. William Davis, a cardiologist who has published a book all about the world's most popular grain.
    Davis said that the wheat we eat these days isn't the wheat your grandma had: "It's an 18-inch tall plant created by genetic research in the '60s and '70s," he said on "CBS This Morning." "This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there's a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It's not gluten. I'm not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I'm talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate. This thing binds into the opiate receptors in your brain and in most people stimulates appetite, such that we consume 440 more calories per day, 365 days per year."
    Asked if the farming industry could change back to the grain it formerly produced, Davis said it could, but it would not be economically feasible because it yields less per acre. However, Davis said a movement has begun with people turning away from wheat - and dropping substantial weight.
    "If three people lost eight pounds, big deal," he said. "But we're seeing hundreds of thousands of people losing 30, 80, 150 pounds. Diabetics become no longer diabetic; people with arthritis having dramatic relief. People losing leg swelling, acid reflux, irritable bowel syndrome, depression, and on and on every day."
    To avoid these wheat-oriented products, Davis suggests eating "real food," such as avocados, olives, olive oil, meats, and vegetables. "(It's) the stuff that is least likely to have been changed by agribusiness," he said. "Certainly not grains. When I say grains, of course, over 90 percent of all grains we eat will be wheat, it's not barley... or flax. It's going to be wheat.
    "It's really a wheat issue."
    Some health resources, such as the Mayo Clinic, advocate a more balanced diet that does include wheat. But Davis said on "CTM" they're just offering a poor alternative.
    "All that literature says is to replace something bad, white enriched products with something less bad, whole grains, and there's an apparent health benefit - 'Let's eat a whole bunch of less bad things.' So I take...unfiltered cigarettes and replace with Salem filtered cigarettes, you should smoke the Salems. That's the logic of nutrition, it's a deeply flawed logic. What if I take it to the next level, and we say, 'Let's eliminate all grains,' what happens then?
    "That's when you see, not improvements in health, that's when you see transformations in health."
    Watch Davis' full interview in the video above.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_1...ag=re1.channel


    Here again an example of how we are just lab mice for the food/agri bizness
    I'd go back to an hunter-gatherer diet if it continues

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    Who cares...

    Living kills you aswell!

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    Ive been doing a modified paleo-diet and have lost 40 lbs and have never felt better.
    It's so easy, a caveman can do it. Got to keep an eye on sodium and nitrates though.

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    I this grain being used world wide or only in US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seraosha View Post
    Ive been doing a modified paleo-diet and have lost 40 lbs and have never felt better.
    It's so easy, a caveman can do it. Got to keep an eye on sodium and nitrates though.
    I know a lot of people who dropped eating wheat products (such as bread) and lost a good deal of weight.

    I do like bread and pasta though, so I am going to continue to live like a devil may care wild man.

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    The sky is falling. one doctor has said wheat is Poison, burn it, burn it all time to eat ants and dirt while whipping ourselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by olebentlarsen View Post
    Who cares...

    Living kills you aswell!
    when your quality of living degrades you will start to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seraosha View Post
    Ive been doing a modified paleo-diet and have lost 40 lbs and have never felt better.
    It's so easy, a caveman can do it. Got to keep an eye on sodium and nitrates though.
    Interesting. How did you modified it ?

    I do like bread and pasta though, so I am going to continue to live like a devil may care wild man.
    Not an issue, just have to find multi cereal bread rather than 100% wheat processed white bread
    Same goes with pastas

    The sky is falling. one doctor has said wheat is Poison, burn it, burn it all time to eat ants and dirt while whipping ourselves
    Not the first one, not the only one. Carry on your denial
    Last edited by Mordoror; 09-24-2012 at 11:20 AM.

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    Wait, there's still people out there who thinks wheat is healthy?

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    Could it be that the weight loss is simply due to eating less calories and not just the fact of eating food that contain the gliadin protein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruisercruiser View Post
    Could it be that the weight loss is simply due to eating less calories and not just the fact of eating food that contain the gliadin protein?
    Also how many just eat Plain Bread? How many slather it with fat ridden spreads?

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    This was on CBS good morning, or that ever the show is called. Before that another Dr with his book on why the return of baby fat. A lot of diets will tell a person to drop the carbos. My understanding is who we are wired for survival. Less food + too much activity = weight loss. Too much food means what does not get burned is stored for leaner times. Bears are a extreme example of storage for the lean times (Hibernation).

    So is there really more? Some folks will say, it is how we eat. "What that super sized?" I think the hint is in the name......... now we have super sized people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordoror View Post



    Not the first one, not the only one. Carry on your denial
    Sorry you may be a Lemming but I like to see something more than One doctor making this claim. You know a general consensus among scientists? peer reviewes and all that. Whats the WHO's stance on wheat?

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    Whole wheat bread bloats me really bad. I try to stay away from it.

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