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    The survival equipment thread got me thinking. Here is the scenario: You are downsizing. Planning to live life out of a motorhome (or towed equivalent) or in some other mobility preferred arrangement (boondock camping, hauling all your gear with you in one vehicle plus a trailer, etc). In essence, a gypsy. You are limited to a maximum of three firearms (1 handgun, 1 rifle, 1 shotgun or other combination of the three). Purposes are defense, recreation and hunting. you can keep up to two cases of ammo per weapon. What do you take?

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    1. Glock 19 or 26. Probably the 19, though -- I've found I can conceal it just as easily as the 26 when carrying AIWB.
    2. My AKM clone.
    3. Ruger 10/22.

    I'm not much of a hunter, but between the .22 and the AKM, I can kill small game and deer. Good HP in the AK for SD (Hornady SST, Russian 8m3 Effect HP, or even Yugo M67 FMJ) and a good SP for hunting (Winchester, Remington, or even Silver Bear 154grn SP) will cover most of my bases there, and I know I can get hits on man-sized targets out to 300M -- I've been behind that rifle for most of my adult life. However, for where I live, it's difficult to see me taking a shot on a deer past 100M, and self-defense at that distance would be very hard to justify. Today I'm installing a folding stock on the rifle, so it'll be easy to keep low-profile if it stays in the vehicle/whatever (can fit in a gym bag/similarly sized bag). The 10/22 I'd need to put a scope on for more general-purpose use; right now, it's got Tech Sights (M16-style aperture sights) on it for marksmanship practice, but if it was to become a dedicated hunter/plinker, I'd put a scope on it even though I can hit squirrels with iron sights. The Glock is for recreation and CCW. 9mm is abundant, inexpensive, and with the right round, effective.

    Throw me some spare parts for each weapon, two ammo cans' worth of each (~2000 of pistol and rifle, probably 10,000 of .22LR) and call it good.

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    1911 in .45>defense-big bang in your hand or a glock in 9mm.
    10/22>smallgame or plink (with a decent scope).
    870 combo>choke/slug-hunt or defense-does it all.
    Ammo>all three-as much as I can get my hands on.

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    1. M1911 for general purpose / close range
    2. M14 for my all purpose hunting / long range (gotta have the wood furnature on it tho...makes it looks less Assaulty-gun)
    3. benelli m4 for defense / bird hunting
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    Well, I'd go with my glock 19, I know it well and 9mm is relatively easy to find.
    It would come with my m16a1 (sorry, ministry of defense's m16a1) carbine even though 5.56 fmj m193 only here, but considering that the most likely target here goes on two, it would make do.
    As of a third one, for hunting and also defense, I'd go with a coumpound bow, as I am not too bad of a shot with those, and I have no legal access to any other firearm

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    1911 -->availability of parts and ammo in my neck of the woods
    M16 --> availability of parts and ammo, and no serious big game in my AO that a .223 cant handle
    Ithaca M37 --> cause I have it and they hardly break

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    As an addendum:

    Should ***** hit the fan and I have to leave wherever I am (tornado, earthquake, etc.), and considering my location, low profile is probably better. That's why I didn't go with a .308 battle rifle, though that seems to be the common "gotta have it" item among the preparedness-minded. My long guns can both be broken down into easily-concealed items, and in the AK's case, can still be kept ready to fire. If for whatever reason I was carrying a long gun, I wouldn't be rocking a plate carrier or LBE while dressed head-to-toe in MultiScam, but rather I'd have a Claymore mine bag or some other hipster-college-student-retro-whatever bag filled with mags, with the rifle concealed somewhere nondescript. A guy walking around with a rifle will be seen as a target/threat by many, including law enforcement and other like-minded individuals.

    Furthermore, I don't want gunfights. People die in gunfights. People get shot in gunfights. If for whatever reason ***** goes bad, those are something one would be smart to avoid at all costs; eventually, your number is going to come up. In all likelihood, if you're in a situation where using a rifle in a self-defense situation outside of the home is realistic, you probably don't have an ER to go to either.

    Even a heavy .223 round (62-77grn) would suffice for the game in my area, and if I wasn't already heavily invested into AKs (classes, practice, experience, stuff I own), I'd feel just as comfortable doing this with an AR variant, as those can be split into lower/upper halves.

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    I have never been able to be completely decided on what to grab.

    I do agree with;

    1) a pistol.
    2) a long gun
    3) a shot gun

    Now which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedsABetterName View Post
    As an addendum:

    Should ***** hit the fan and I have to leave wherever I am (tornado, earthquake, etc.), and considering my location, low profile is probably better. That's why I didn't go with a .308 battle rifle, though that seems to be the common "gotta have it" item among the preparedness-minded. My long guns can both be broken down into easily-concealed items, and in the AK's case, can still be kept ready to fire. If for whatever reason I was carrying a long gun, I wouldn't be rocking a plate carrier or LBE while dressed head-to-toe in MultiScam, but rather I'd have a Claymore mine bag or some other hipster-college-student-retro-whatever bag filled with mags, with the rifle concealed somewhere nondescript. A guy walking around with a rifle will be seen as a target/threat by many, including law enforcement and other like-minded individuals.

    Furthermore, I don't want gunfights. People die in gunfights. People get shot in gunfights. If for whatever reason ***** goes bad, those are something one would be smart to avoid at all costs; eventually, your number is going to come up. In all likelihood, if you're in a situation where using a rifle in a self-defense situation outside of the home is realistic, you probably don't have an ER to go to either.

    Even a heavy .223 round (62-77grn) would suffice for the game in my area, and if I wasn't already heavily invested into AKs (classes, practice, experience, stuff I own), I'd feel just as comfortable doing this with an AR variant, as those can be split into lower/upper halves.


    whereas I agree with everything you said about fights breaking out (and I would very much prefer NOT being shot at since that does raise my personal risk of being injured or killed) I am not taking down a good sized Mule deer with a 5.56 reliably. course I could always trade oiut the M14 for my Mosin and I have taken down large Mule Deer with that...easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    I have never been able to be completely decided on what to grab.

    I do agree with;

    1) a pistol.
    2) a long gun
    3) a shot gun

    Now which one?
    Like the man said, "Aye, there's the rub."

    I have just about decided on the following (going with some of what sits in my inventory in both weaponry and ammo):

    Glock 23 (although I'm torn with a 9 mm BHP I have had for a very long time...)
    Springfield M1A Scout (although my AR in M4gery trim would be a valid choice as well...)
    Mossberg 930SPX (although I have an 870 that would be just as good a choice...)

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    I've been in this hypothetical situation...a few years back when I had no kids, the wife and I sold pretty much everything we owned. We bought an SUV and a 30ft travel trailer and traveled.

    After much debate, I ended up taking on my side folder AK 74 and my Colt 1911. I almost keeping an old Winchester shotgun, but ended up trading it for a spam can of 5.45

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    Nice, I already have all that covered !

    Pistol: Bersa Thunder Pro 9mm, several +15 magazines, plenty of ammo
    Recreation rifle / some hunting: Magtech 7022 .22lr
    Home protection: Iga Gaucha pump action shotgun 12.70, extended magazine 8 + 1, tough as h*ll.

    In a not so distant future Im planning to get a Mossberg bolt action as "rifle", .308.

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    1) My 6.8SPC "Evil" Black Rifle
    2) Walmart Remington shotgun - don't know the model, but it has kill tons of possiums, raccons, rabbits and it works great.
    3) Havent decided yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    1) My 6.8SPC "Evil" Black Rifle
    2) Walmart Remington shotgun - don't know the model, but it has kill tons of possiums, raccons, rabbits and it works great.
    3) Havent decided yet.
    Kind of a redneck doesnt know the model of his shotty. Poser

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    Quote Originally Posted by junglejim View Post
    Kind of a redneck doesnt know the model of his shotty. Poser
    Whatever, you wanna be airsofter.

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