Not to completely derail the thread, but why not go for making guns based on stamped designs first.
I have been doing some reading and it seems AK's can be assembled more easily. Many AK parts are pretty basic, some stampings, and a few milled pieces The receiver is essentially a 1mm-1.5mm piece of sheet metal with appropriate holes that are then pressed on a die and heat treated. Some guy as shown earlier built his receiver from pieces welded together forgoing bending a piece of sheet steel.
The AR is a good platform, but most likely it is a good platform because of the professionalism of its manufacture. If you want a gun good made easy something like the Sten is notorious for being made in basements. As the old engineering saying goes, KISS Keep It Simple Stupid.
Mar Lamah
What about making a curved plastic magazine out of 'sheet plastic', making the required internal shaping, then plastic-welding it all together? Could that work for diy purposes? (I know bugger-all about guns, but I have some good ideas sometimes)
Any reason they stopped the production of the AR-18? Sorry it is a bit off topic.
I think it was a combination Colt's aggressive and successful marketing of their AR-15/M-16, which they'd purchased from Armalite in 1959 and early production quality control problems that effected reliability.
In 2001, the re-formed Armalite Co introduced the AR-180b, an updated version with an AR compatible mag well and a steel reinforced polymer lower receiver for around $600. It was accurate and lightweight at 6.0 lbs (2.7kg) and was generally well reviewed. And I kick myself for not getting one.
From an earlier thread:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...R-180-or-AR-15Unfortunately, Armalite ceased production of the AR-180b a few years ago because high demand for AR-15 type rifles.
I got the following response to a query about Armalite restarting AR-180b production with maybe a folding stock this time:
The 180B isn’t dead, we’re waiting to see what happens with another possible ban as we’re looking to make some upgrades to it and don’t want to invest the time, R & D and money to do this now when a ban might stop it’s production.
Tim Rooker
Tech - Internet Support / Sales
ArmaLite Inc.
I have no idea what the time differential would be in building a cast or stamped receiver. Generally stamped is faster and cheaper than case.
I looked into buying a less than 80% cast AR15 lower, but the tooling, taps etc would cost a fortune, especially in building just a few. If you want to go sheet metal, I would build a AK over a AR.
Last edited by Hollis; 12-26-2012 at 08:22 PM.