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    Default Need help ID'ing the vehicle used at Operation Kraai

    Does anyone know what vehicle they're using?

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    Marmon-Herrington Mk III, with some modifications, like the machine gun on the hull next to the driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Avenger View Post
    Marmon-Herrington Mk III, with some modifications, like the machine gun on the hull next to the driver.
    thanks.. that was fast..

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    Like there was anhy doibt DA would come up with the answer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nherdananto View Post
    thanks.. that was fast..
    You're welcome. It wasn't hard, after all.
    By the way, you may want to check this out. Scroll down a bit to find the M-H cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Avenger View Post
    You're welcome. It wasn't hard, after all.
    By the way, you may want to check this out. Scroll down a bit to find the M-H cars.
    thank you very much, the site was very helpfull..

    one more question, what aircraft is this ?


    all of this picture was taken at my hometown, malang, east java, Indonesia. during operation kraai

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    North American B-25 Mitchell

    No. 18 (Netherlands East Indies) Squadron, later part of ML-KNIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Avenger View Post
    Marmon-Herrington Mk III, with some modifications, like the machine gun on the hull next to the driver.
    This type of armoured car was commonly referred to as an 'overvalwagen' (translates to something like assault vehicle) in Dutch usage. There's a pretty large variety of homebrew and manufacturer designed vehicles that were in use both in the metropole and in the colonies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperiion View Post
    AFAIK the Marmon-Herrington was not called 'overvalwagen'. Only the homebrew vehicles were called like that.

    [FONT=arial][SIZE=2]''Shortly before the Japanese invasion of the island of Java in 1942 a several South African-built Marmon Herrington armored cars arrived. These second-hand vehicles had previously been used on the African front and arrived unarmed. After KNIL capitulation, many were used as captured equipment by the Japanese.[/SIZE][/FONT]''
    'Overvalwagen' can refer to a specific Dutch designed vehicle or collectively to any wheeled, armoured and armed vehicle used by the Dutch military (even today the Dutch police uses 'overvalwagens' for anti riot squads).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nherdananto View Post
    thank you very much, the site was very helpfull..

    one more question, what aircraft is this ?


    all of this picture was taken at my hometown, malang, east java, Indonesia. during operation kraai
    Looks kinda small for a Betty (G4M). Plus the framing for the nose glazing is more reminiscent of the Ki-49 Donryu (Helen).

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