Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21

Thread: Fathers disappear from households across America

  1. #1
    Goat Roper shermbodius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Deep in the wastelands of the North
    Posts
    12,042

    Default Fathers disappear from households across America

    Nicole Hawkins‘ three daughters have matching glittery boots, but none has the same father. Each has uniquely colored ties in her hair, but none has a dad present in her life.
    As another single mother on Sumner Road decked her row-house stoop with Christmas lights and a plastic Santa, Ms. Hawkins recalled that her middle child’s father has never spent a holiday or birthday with her. In her neighborhood in Southeast Washington, 1 in 10 children live with both parents, and 84 percent live with only their mother.
    In every state, the portion of families where children have two parents, rather than one, has dropped significantly over the past decade. Even as the country added 160,000 families with children, the number of two-parent households decreased by 1.2 million. Fifteen million U.S. children, or 1 in 3, live without a father, and nearly 5 million live without a mother. In 1960, just 11 percent of American children lived in homes without fathers.
    America is awash in poverty, crime, drugs and other problems, but more than perhaps anything else, it all comes down to this, said Vincent DiCaro, vice president of the National Fatherhood Initiative: Deal with absent fathers, and the rest follows.
    People “look at a child in need, in poverty or failing in school, and ask, ‘What can we do to help?’ But what we do is ask, ‘Why does that child need help in the first place?’ And the answer is often it’s because [the child lacks] a responsible and involved father,” he said.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2GBz70mRd

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Traveling 200 of 365
    Posts
    1,433

    Default

    I think there is a causation problem.

    A lot of good dads are away working and providing for the family. Their children make it out fine.

    A lot of bad dads run away and leave their kids. Will that sort of man really be a positive force in the child's life?

    This reminds me of the irritating boost self-esteem = boost performance movement. Dad involvement = better children.

  3. #3
    Goat Roper shermbodius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Deep in the wastelands of the North
    Posts
    12,042

    Default

    Well, AC from my experiance, if you can instill a set of values early and reenforce them often, it does help them later in decision making.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Sniffit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Socialist Scandinavia
    Posts
    2,073

    Default

    Ms. Hawkins, the mother of three, lives with her youngest child’s father but considers herself a single parent.

    “When he’s home, he’s watching TV; it’s his time. I get no help. Financially, he’s been a good provider,” she said, even for the children who aren’t his. But “as far as being involved in activities, not so much.”

    Her relationship with her eldest child’s father ended over his refusal to support their offspring, and her second child’s father is in prison.
    Or maybe Ms. Hawkins should stop seeing and making babies with retards.

  5. #5
    Goat Roper shermbodius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Deep in the wastelands of the North
    Posts
    12,042

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    Or maybe Ms. Hawkins should stop seeing and making babies with retards.
    That would make too much sense. Also Washington DC is filled with retards.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Traveling 200 of 365
    Posts
    1,433

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    That would make too much sense.
    And yet we have to struggle with butt **** stupid folk who oppose making birth control free and available and *** education mandatory.

  7. #7
    Milo Drinker of Death Flagg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    The (South)Island of Misfit Toys
    Posts
    12,924

    Default

    I like the idea of free abortions.......as Freakonomics appears to show reduced crime rates down the track.

    I'd also be a big supporter of paying $1000 for irreversible vasectomies and $10,000 for irreversible tubal ligations.

    While I agree that wealth disparity is a significant social issue.....simply because society can only sustain so much of it for so long before an excessive amount of bad stuff happens(but could be a LONG time down the track).......the finger needs to be pointed 360 degrees.

    Lots of folks on the left pointing fingers at the wealthy, but not pointing any fingers at themselves.

    The fact of the matter is that folks who would be categorized as middle class slip into the marginal class when busted up, even if it's only the high frictional costs of mow having to run two households with all the associated expenses rather than one.

    Where together represents an opportunity to own a home, educated your kids, and save for retirement(yes often at considerable sacrifice elsewhere), apart you have two single parent households a paycheck or three away from homelessness.

    It's not just "The Man", it's some p!ss poor personal choices as well.

  8. #8
    Goat Roper shermbodius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Deep in the wastelands of the North
    Posts
    12,042

    Default

    Also, the gangs in the larger cities take these kids in and create more gang bangers.

  9. #9
    How's that Hopey Changey thing workin'? C.Puffs's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Goddamnit avatar GROWWWW!
    Posts
    16,089

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    Or maybe Ms. Hawkins should stop seeing and making babies with retards.
    But she get's a bigger check if she makes more.

  10. #10
    Senior Member Bruisercruiser's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Twerking in your backyard.
    Posts
    1,114

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Chalmers View Post
    And yet we have to struggle with butt **** stupid folk who oppose making birth control free and available and *** education mandatory.
    Free birth control is one thing but expecting it to be used enough to make a difference is not realistic IMO.

  11. #11
    Senior Member Vince S's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    On a marathon starting line
    Age
    27
    Posts
    6,249

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruisercruiser View Post
    Free birth control is one thing but expecting it to be used enough to make a difference is not realistic IMO.
    Hahaha my ex's friends each had 4 abortions... They are 25 for f*ck sakes.

  12. #12
    Goat Roper shermbodius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Deep in the wastelands of the North
    Posts
    12,042

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vince S View Post
    Hahaha my ex's friends each had 4 abortions... They are 25 for f*ck sakes.
    Damn Vince, that is some crazy stuff. Seems that would screw up a woman's body.

  13. #13
    Moderator James's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Washington
    Age
    39
    Posts
    14,042

    Default

    I think it's worth pointing out that some mothers just aren't very nice people and make it difficult for fathers to see their children on purpose.

  14. #14
    Senior Member Breakfast in Vegas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Reflecting on life at Narcism Pond.
    Posts
    12,786

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vince S View Post
    Hahaha my ex's friends each had 4 abortions... They are 25 for f*ck sakes.
    Thems some quality broads!
    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    I think it's worth pointing out that some mothers just aren't very nice people and make it difficult for fathers to see their children on purpose.
    Happened to a good friend of mine, it was insane. He was the nicest guy and she was a complete psycho.

  15. #15
    Senior Member Squeezee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Boston
    Age
    4
    Posts
    4,875

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    I think it's worth pointing out that some mothers just aren't very nice people and make it difficult for fathers to see their children on purpose.
    A guy that graduated high school in my town a few years ago has a 5 year old son. He missed almost all of his life up until this past Thanksgiving because the mother had a bull**** restraining order against him. As far as I have been told, the story goes that she thought he was a bad influence, despite being a cocaine user herself.

    The world is a truly confusing place.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •