You needed receipts.Originally Posted by NanT
80% of people who were eligible for the tax refund either didn't claim it or weren't getting the full amount. You can say tough **** if you never claimed it or didn't do your tax return correctly, but then where did all that money go for 3 years? It paid the schoolkids bonus. So I'm saying, it's not a handout, if it's your money.
It's 100% a taxpayer funded cash hand out in an election year. To claim otherwise, to claim somehow that they are entitled to it because it is already their money is ludicrous,
It started last year, and what's ludicrous about claiming money that was initially part of your tax refund?
That's a pretty big entitlement attitude you've got there. So what if it is a tax deduction or a cash handout, it is still middle class welfare vote buying.
It's called logic. I applied it here when no evidence of middle class welfare vote buying was found.
Ok, so she is a "user". Change the system!
But word of clarification. After I contributed for years to unemployment, when I was in between jobs for a month I got only 40% of my pay because "you're income was to large and that is enough to live on". Mind you, I still contributed the same percentage of my salary (ignoring large salary, large contribution). But when I needed to use my contributions, all of a sudden I am just a pest. I hate what unemployment is today in most countries!
No, it's more like paramedics doing emergency work on the spot. You can not complain to a paramedic that they did not perform a liver transplant immediately, can you! That is the job of doctors in hospitals.
At this point UN is just a paramedic and there are no doctors or hospitals available. So "better than nothing" is still better than nothing.
By every measure it is middle class welfare, and your beligerant attitude of entitlement doesn't change this fact. Middle class welfare is a massive issue here in Australia. Why should a couple earning over $150,000 get all these various handouts?Economists call for end to middle-class welfare
- BY:MILANDA ROUT
- February 25, 2013 12:00AM
LABOR and the Coalition have been urged to target middle-class welfare amid warnings about the "unsustainable" load on the federal budget, with the $4.5 billion spent on Family Tax Benefit B each year a prime target for cuts.
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"I think certainly the first priority of the new government is to target middle-class welfare," she said. "In the long term, I believe the government ought to be aggressive in reducing the welfare state. And it's going to be politically unpopular."
Ms Novak said tax breaks such as the Family Tax Benefit B -- which entails transfers of up to $150 a fortnight to couples where the primary earner earns up to $150,000 and the second earner no more than $25,600 -- should be rethought as often the people who receive them "don't necessarily need them".
Grattan Institute chief executive John Daley said while middle-class welfare -- and Family Tax Benefit B -- should be examined, such measures would not solely balance the government's books.
"It (Family Tax Benefit B) is obviously something that needs to be on the list," he said.
"But it isn't going to solve the whole problem. It will certainly help but it won't get you the whole way there."
Mr Daley disagreed with Mr Argus's concerns about the expansion of social welfare, saying in comparison with other developed countries, Australia does not have a big government.
"It's not welfare eating the Australian government budget," he said. "Australia is an outlier because its unusually small for a developed economy."
Mr Daley said the government should be in surplus given the state of the economy and there was a debate needed on "which tough decisions we are prepared to make" to ensure the country gets back in the black.
"You need to be looking at everything," he said.
"You need to accept that there will be losers, whatever happens."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226584602417
Accusing me of being entitled isn't helping your argument when you have nothing to substantiate your argument and neither does linking me to an article that is directed at Family Tax Benefit B. I thought we were discussing the schoolkids bonus.
You haven't managed to prove why you are entitled to tax payer funded handouts. I am just providing yet more examples of the magnitude of the problem in Australia where people like you argue vigorously about their right to suck on the tax payer teat. This attitude is a massive problem in Australia.
Haha! Good joke. With the "means they got" Poor UN. I know lots of people who work at the UN. It is the most corrupt bloated organization in existence. Everyone that works there works with the intention to steal as much money as possible, all the way down to the filing clerks (which get paid about 60k a year for having no qualifications. Well, actually they get paid less, but are not subject to taxation, therefore the US equivalent wage is about 60k).And FYI those off shot of UN are doing a pretty good job in Africa and Asia with the means they get
Tear the damn thing down. The building is ugly too.
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