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    Default Second new US nuclear reactor in a week under way

    Construction has officially begun on a new reactor at the Vogtle power plant in Georgia. It is the second AP1000 construction to start in America this week.

    Some 5350 cubic metres of concrete were poured to form the basemat for the nuclear portion of Vogtle 3. It will support the reactor itself and buildings to shield it and house fuel handling facilities and auxiliary equipment.
    Buzz Miller of project leader Georgia Power said, "We are very proud of this accomplishment, and of all the hard work and collaboration that went into making it happen. This was a team effort that included Georgia Power, Southern Nuclear, Chicago Bridge & Iron (CB&I), Westinghouse and [Georgia Power's] co-owners Oglethorp Power Corp, the Municipal Electric Authority of Georgia and Dalton Utilities."
    First concrete at Vogtle 3 came just four days after the same milestone at VC Summer 2 - the first of two AP1000s being built by South Carolina Electric & Gas. Westinghouse CEO Danny Roderick said it had been "a week of momentous progress in bringing a new generation of safe, clean reliable nuclear energy to the USA."

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN...y_1503131.html

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    Good news. Now can we finally settle on a place to put the leftover ****?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    Good news. Now can we finally settle on a place to put the leftover ****?
    A'stan when we have left? Tell Karzai we have a new 'energy' deal for him but be very sketchy on the details

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    Didn't know this was news. It was news when it was approved a while back, but I thought they'd already started by now. Judging by its location, we may be selling some of that power to the Carolina's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    Good news. Now can we finally settle on a place to put the leftover ****?
    Fo' real. I mean as long as you dig deep enough and put enough concrete around it, won't any land that isn't ****e to earthquakes do? Yes, that's a dramatic oversimplification. But, with the technology and materials at our disposal and plenty of stable unoccupied lands you'd think it wouldn't be an issue. We have Canada to the north after all.

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    Those guys need welders bad. If any of you guys are in the trade you should check it out.

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    Iran should impose sanctions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger View Post
    Fo' real. I mean as long as you dig deep enough and put enough concrete around it, won't any land that isn't ****e to earthquakes do? Yes, that's a dramatic oversimplification. But, with the technology and materials at our disposal and plenty of stable unoccupied lands you'd think it wouldn't be an issue. We have Canada to the north after all.
    Well, its scientifically simple but politically difficult. A location in Utah has been chosen and semi-prepared. The trouble is, no state wants this stuff transported and stored, even on federal land in their state.

    And then there is the interesting problem of how do you communicate the danger of this stuff to future civilizations? Imagine in 5,000 years English is a dead language, our technology is so obsolete its mysterious and archeologists think they have stumbled onto an awesome find 1 kilometer beneath the surface but instead of cultural treasure they find horrible poison...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    Well, its scientifically simple but politically difficult. A location in Utah has been chosen and semi-prepared. The trouble is, no state wants this stuff transported and stored, even on federal land in their state.

    And then there is the interesting problem of how do you communicate the danger of this stuff to future civilizations? Imagine in 5,000 years English is a dead language, our technology is so obsolete its mysterious and archeologists think they have stumbled onto an awesome find 1 kilometer beneath the surface but instead of cultural treasure they find horrible poison...
    Unless they've regressed back to pre-industrial age tech.....I think they'll figure it out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan10k View Post
    Unless they've regressed back to pre-industrial age tech.....I think they'll figure it out....
    How? You might well be right but remember that if the containment chamber does its job radiation will not be leaking but the barrels inside could be deteriorated all to hell.
    Future Doctor Joneses might think its a tomb or something. Some of those tend to be pretty well protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    How? You might well be right but remember that if the containment chamber does its job radiation will not be leaking but the barrels inside could be deteriorated all to hell.
    Future Doctor Joneses might think its a tomb or something. Some of those tend to be pretty well protected.
    One or two people getting radiation sickness should do the trick I would think. By then, once again so long as technology hasn't regressed from its current state, that shouldn't be a death sentence. Anyway, all we can do is make them as secure as possible, and maybe build an English speaking Empire that lasts 10,000 years so it's not a problem anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    And then there is the interesting problem of how do you communicate the danger of this stuff to future civilizations? Imagine in 5,000 years English is a dead language, our technology is so obsolete its mysterious and archeologists think they have stumbled onto an awesome find 1 kilometer beneath the surface but instead of cultural treasure they find horrible poison...

    Some people have come up with some interesting ideas to address the problem.

    http://downlode.org/Etext/WIPP/

    http://articles.latimes.com/2006/may...ss/fi-forever3
    Last edited by shuredgefan; 03-16-2013 at 05:47 PM.

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    I wouldn't worry about waste, that issue is nearing its end

    Thank goodness its finally happening here. I kinda wish these were newer generation reactors though, its not like Westinghouse doesn't have them.

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    My older brother trained for the nuclear Navy in the 60's. After his service he said one of the biggest problems with the nuclear industry was that each reactor, even if based on a common design, was site-built and each was unique. A technician trained on one unit could not go to another similar unit at a different utility without full retraining even if they were built by the same company.

    He suggested that they should come up with a stable good design and cookie cutter it instead of making them unique. Makes sense to me.

    I don't know if this was true, you know how some service folks can stretch the facts a little, but if true standardization would be a good thing.

    And yes, I support nuclear as one part of a good breakfast for helping solve the carbon issues going forward. And yes, I am aware of the issues with waste. I live in Washington and we have a little place called Hanford we are trying to stabalize and "clean-up".

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    [QUOTE=Rattfink;6624318
    And then there is the interesting problem of how do you communicate the danger of this stuff to future civilizations? Imagine in 5,000 years English is a dead language, our technology is so obsolete its mysterious and archeologists think they have stumbled onto an awesome find 1 kilometer beneath the surface but instead of cultural treasure they find horrible poison...[/QUOTE]
    Even the symbols themselves have the potential to bait people to open up the mysterious room.
    Let's say that the general idea is put forward. As many can attest to, there is nothing more enticing than that "DANGER" sign.

    http://www.damninteresting.com/this-...lace-of-honor/

    On a random note, considering how widespread it has become, I wouldn't say that English would be completely dead.
    It, and it linguistic children, will probably be unrecognizable to us, but I'm confident that there would still be that tether to trace things back.

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