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    Japan unveils new antisubmarine patrol planes
    English.news.cn 2013-03-26 21:03:13

    TOKYO, March 26 (Xinhua) -- Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) received the first two of a fleet of next generation P-1 antisubmarine patrol aircraft on Tuesday, with the planes scheduled to be deployed at Atsugi Air Base in Kanagawa Prefecture later this month, local media reported.

    The official delivery ceremony held earlier in the day in Gifu Prefecture, central Japan, heralds the beginning of the JMSDF's plans to acquire seven of the high-tech planes to be deployed by March 2014 and a total of 70 P-1s in the long-run, officials said.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/wo..._132263833.htm
    With the acquisition of P-1, JMSDF will operate 70 equivalents of the P-8 Poseidon. It will provide JMSDF with one of the heaviest long-range ASW, AEW, and also Airborne BMD capabilities globally. 7 of these P-1s will be in active service with JMSDF by March of next year.










    In the future, the fleet of P-1 will be further augmented by modified C-1s and new C-2s for more robust strategic airlifting and surveillance capabilities. There are about 30 aircraft of the former in operation, and 40 planes are currently planned for C-2.








    One of the centerpiece equipment of JMSDF's AEW and ABMD is AIRBOSS, or Airborne Infra-Red Ballistic missile Observation Sensor System. The system can be mounted on a smaller P-3C aircraft. On a P-1, it could be mounted together with a dorsal MESA radar. I will discuss more about this in the P-1 AEW thread.






    (Clarification: JMSDF and JASDF each operate independent AEW/ABMD assets, much like the USN and USAF. The JMSDF relies on P-3C and P-1 for those missions, while JASDF relies on C-1, C-2, E-2 Hawkeye, and E-3 Sentry for the same missions. Their capabilities overlap but they can operate independent of each other if required. USN is currently the only Navy that operates more of these long-range support assets than Japan.)

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    looks like there is a pic of f-15 silent but not f-35 strage.
    http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7098/mod6s.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljon View Post
    looks like there is a pic of f-15 silent but not f-35 strage.
    http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7098/mod6s.jpg
    Thats not a F-15SE.

    Thats the ATD-X. Demonstrator for technologies to be used on the F-3.

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    I love their new cargo plane. They should sell it on the open market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    I love their new cargo plane. They should sell it on the open market.
    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...377428/rlifter

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    70 of these???? That seems like an enormous number for a nation the size of Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    70 of these???? That seems like an enormous number for a nation the size of Japan.
    The size of Japan quickly expands when you include maritime territory in the equation.



    Monitoring all this area requires a really huge number of patrol planes. JMSDF currently operates 90 P-3C variants.

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    Link appears to be broken.
    Try it again later. The whole FlightGlobal site seems to be down right now.

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    First purpose-built MPA since the Breguet Atlantic took to the air in 1961!

    This is going to be a superb asset. I hope that the British MoD (and others in the west) are sitting up, and compiling their shopping lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    70 of these???? That seems like an enormous number for a nation the size of Japan.
    You should see how many P-3's they currently operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyslapper View Post
    First purpose-built MPA since the Breguet Atlantic took to the air in 1961!

    This is going to be a superb asset. I hope that the British MoD (and others in the west) are sitting up, and compiling their shopping lists.
    I think the Jap's have a constitutional self imposed ban on defence exports ?
    Well, at present...

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    and also Airborne BMD capabilities globally
    What dose that mean ? 10x

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    Quote Originally Posted by droopy View Post
    What dose that mean ? 10x
    It means Airborne Ballistic Missile Defense system. The P-1 equipped with AIRBOSS and MESA will aid search-and-track in BMD missions.

    The P-1 that is personally operated by JMSDF suits the role particularly well because Japan's most potent ABM platforms are naval ships. JMSDF will be able to conduct BMD missions thousands of miles away from the Japanese coast independently without strictly needing to interoperate with ground-based systems or JASDF whose capabilities may be restricted by distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambassador View Post
    It means Airborne Ballistic Missile Defense system. The P-1 equipped with AIRBOSS and MESA will aid search-and-track in BMD missions.

    The P-1 that is personally operated by JMSDF suits the role particularly well because Japan's most potent ABM platforms are naval ships. JMSDF will be able to conduct BMD missions thousands of miles away from the Japanese coast independently without strictly needing to interoperate with ground-based systems or JASDF whose capabilities may be restricted by distance.
    One other advantage over ground-based systems.... Being an IR system, its ability to detect ballistic missiles is degraded by bad weather conditions. But with an aircraft-based system, planes can be routed away from storms to prevent performance degradation.

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