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    Default Europe Considers 'Black' Armed MALE UAV Project

    Frustrated by apparent U.S. ambivalence in granting authority to integrate weapons onto its Reaper aircraft, the Italian air force is looking at possible alternatives, including a yet-to-be-announced “black program” to create a European medium-altitude/long-endurance (MALE) armed UAV.

    Along those lines, Rome is in talks with potential European partners to move forward with a weaponized UAV that Debertolis refers to as a “Super MALE.” One of its principal requirements would be for it to deploy weapons, he says.
    This is a “black program,” Debertolis says, providing little details. Work has not yet begun because partners haven’t yet agreed on a way ahead. But the goal would be to field something using existing technology by around 2017. This project, if it moves forward, could be unveiled at the Paris air show in Le Bourget next month, he says
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    While I would be happy to see something come about on this, I feel this might be just floating vapourware to force the USGOV's hand.

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    I could do without another pan-European arms project. I would like to see this in my lifetime.

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    the Italian air force is looking at possible alternatives, including a yet-to-be-announced “black program” to create a European medium-altitude/long-endurance (MALE) armed UAV.
    Reads 'will at least make an attempt to be included in the Telemos programme'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~UNiOnJaCk~ View Post
    Reads 'will at least make an attempt to be included in the Telemos programme'...
    All this story made me think "and people day the special relationship is dead?" The RAF want Brimstone on Reaper and the USAF starts work on it.

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    What's the reason in publicly declaring a black project? Oo

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobWilliams View Post
    All this story made me think "and people day the special relationship is dead?" The RAF want Brimstone on Reaper and the USAF starts work on it.
    To be fair there is some vested interest in the successful integration from America's point of view, they still consider Brimstone a serious contender to any future anti tank munitions procurement programmes so are probably keeping their options open for themselves as much as they are giving us a helping hand, that and given the chance we would have done the integration testing (at least) ourselves. They probably don't have an interest in whatever it is the Italians wanted to see fitted which at least in part would have affected the decision i should think.

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    For a thread titled:
    'Black' Armed MALE
    there's a distinct lack of black guys with weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mu-Meson View Post
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    there's a distinct lack of black guys with weapons.
    Does this look like OT&H?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpheus View Post
    Does this look like OT&H?
    Does this look like I care what you think?

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    Gentlemen please....no one cares what either of you think.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ~UNiOnJaCk~ View Post
    To be fair there is some vested interest in the successful integration from America's point of view, they still consider Brimstone a serious contender to any future anti tank munitions procurement programmes so are probably keeping their options open for themselves as much as they are giving us a helping hand, that and given the chance we would have done the integration testing (at least) ourselves. They probably don't have an interest in whatever it is the Italians wanted to see fitted which at least in part would have affected the decision i should think.
    That would piss off quite a few Congressmen and constituents of theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbs View Post
    That would piss off quite a few Congressmen and constituents of theirs.
    More than likely, at least at the moment they don't appear to have caught wind of it or at the very least it is at the stage of interest where they don't yet have a position to complain i should think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbs View Post
    That would piss off quite a few Congressmen and constituents of theirs.
    The JAGM program at the moment is still in limbo, the USN and USMC opted out of it for continue use of the Hellfire and future SDB II. Leaving the "Joint" program as an Army-only program and they're only in the technology development phase. Lockheed and Raytheon-Boeing got fundings for their tri-mode seeker for their respected competing missile and I think that is as far as they are right now. Reaper's weapon integration is a USAF thing IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mu-Meson View Post
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    there's a distinct lack of black guys with weapons.
    Greatest title evar.

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