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    Default Nelson Mandela - political activist or terrorist

    discuss

    be specific

    support your answers

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    And why were you suspended before?

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    hard feelings eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sootan View Post
    And why were you suspended before?

    because

    and i quote the mod
    "[*******#333333]The thread was about his health, not what happened back in the day.
    [/COLOR][*******#333333]It was irritating people, they wanted to talk about his health. If you want to talk about his history, start a thread and crack on."
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    so there we have it

    so Soooooootan

    Terrorist or Freedom fighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coattail Rider View Post
    because

    and i quote the mod
    "[*******#333333]The thread was about his health, not what happened back in the day.
    [/COLOR][*******#333333]It was irritating people, they wanted to talk about his health. If you want to talk about his history, start a thread and crack on."
    [/COLOR]

    so there we have it

    so Soooooootan

    Terrorist or Freedom fighter?
    You have about 5 pages of infractions in less than a year. 5 pages puts a person on the short list. That should give you something to think about. Some forums like rage and flames, we do not. (For other members, this is something to think about if your infractions pages are getting long. We have members who have been here a long time and do not even have one or only a page.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coattail Rider View Post
    Terrorist or Freedom fighter?
    Pretty Princess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coattail Rider View Post
    so there we have it

    so Soooooootan

    Terrorist or Freedom fighter?
    Freedom Fighter with terroristic streak in his struggle. A man who used terror as one of the means to further his cause to freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    You have about 5 pages of infractions in less than a year. 5 pages puts a person on the short list. That should give you something to think about. Some forums like rage and flames, we do not. (For other members, this is something to think about if your infractions pages are getting long. We have members who have been here a long time and do not even have one or only a page.)
    We both know that some of my infractions came from a certain mod who dislikes me. This isn't coming from me, this is coming from the mouths of other mods who've said one mod has a "hard-on" for me.

    I don't care too much either way.

    What irritates me is that a bloke who commited and endorsed terrorist acts including necklacing is being lauded as a hero....

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    I think it depends on the setting. I could hardly see the sort of peaceful demonstration the US civil rights movement was doing anything in a segregated community such as south africa. Desperation drives people to violence. What matters is how he ended up, which is as a leader who managed to hold the country together in a transitional period. Was he a great president? Perhaps not, but with no experience in government he did pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coattail Rider View Post
    We both know that some of my infractions came from a certain mod who dislikes me. This isn't coming from me, this is coming from the mouths of other mods who've said one mod has a "hard-on" for me.

    I don't care too much either way.

    What irritates me is that a bloke who commited and endorsed terrorist acts including necklacing is being lauded as a hero....
    You are not my type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    You are not my type.

    cmon

    try it, you might like it


    how many drinks will it take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximmmm View Post
    What matters is how he ended up,

    See this is what i dont get, this line of thinking

    Have you ever seen footage of necklacing?

    its up there with holocaust footage on the horrific scale as far as im concerned.

    I remember being unfortunate enough to see video of a guy with a burning tyre around his neck - its something that stuck with me a long time.

    I cant imagine letting something like that slide

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    I think it would be overly simplistic to categoize a man such as Nelson Mandela as a black or white figure. His actions before were terroristic or violent, then again he pushed for a peaceful transition for South Africa down the road. Would he have risen to prominence had he not done what he did that got him to jail earlier on? Who knows. However, we can be sure that what he did before is what catapulted him to a position where he could better impact change.

    All national figures have a less than sterling past if you dig down enough. It is up to you if you decide to worship him as a god or try to understand him as a human with good and bad traits.

    Only time will really tell and it really depends on the perspective.

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