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    I am certainly by no means an expert in modern military equipment. It just appeared to me that most helmets in this day and age seem to follow two distinct shapes: the russian/eastern european style, and the american/german "fritz" shaped helmet. The British have their own shape of helmet. Am I correct in this observation? i only ask because i am a modeler and wanted to start work on some Coalition troops in Iraq.

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    perhaps i should clarify, i'm speaking more of the western countries than anything else.

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    There's a spanish website :
    www.cascoscoleccion.com
    It's about 20th century military helmets. It's pretty interesting, but it's in Spanish. Anyways it's easy to find the pictures even if you can't speak spanish.

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    thank you Knutsen, i'm not a spanish speaker but i'll do my best

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    Don't forget the Iraqi Spaceballs helmet.


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    What scale are you modeling Penna?

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    Deuterium wtf?? is that spaceball helmet real??
    hahaha, i had a good laugh.

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    the helmet is for real..among collectors its known as the 'Iraqi Darth Vader', alot of them flooded places like ebay last year. Its a practically useless helmet made of fibreglass. Was issued to units of the Saddam Fayadeen and even has a little rubber Saddam crest on the side. So far nobody has given a good explanation for the Star Wars looks..maybe somone just thought it was cool or something.

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    Default Re: Modern military helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by penna
    I am certainly by no means an expert in modern military equipment. It just appeared to me that most helmets in this day and age seem to follow two distinct shapes: the russian/eastern european style, and the american/german "fritz" shaped helmet. The British have their own shape of helmet. Am I correct in this observation? i only ask because i am a modeler and wanted to start work on some Coalition troops in Iraq.

    thank you for any help

    perhaps i should clarify, i'm speaking more of the western countries than anything else.
    Some east European countries are going fritz. Some Baltic states have the PSGT and Poland has its own version. The Swiss are swapping their M71 for a Fritz. Even the Chinese are at it.

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    I remember seeing some pictures of Marines in my old unit from GW1, who found some of the "Darth Vader" helmets ,they were having a good old time re-enacting Star Wars, funny as hell.
    Now this was a long time ago so my memory is a bit fuzzy. I was given the explanation that they were either specifically for AA gunners or RPG gunners, something to do with the back-blast. It was one of those two, but like I said it was a long time ago, and I cant prove anything.
    Personally I just think the Iraqis are insane.

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    Hey Scrim nice XM8 in your avatar. Is it yours?

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    No its not mine (i wish!!)
    Apparently its worth a pretty penny.
    http://www.quanonline.com/military/m...imental_3.html

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    Default Re: Modern military helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by LazyLob
    Quote Originally Posted by penna
    I am certainly by no means an expert in modern military equipment. It just appeared to me that most helmets in this day and age seem to follow two distinct shapes: the russian/eastern european style, and the american/german "fritz" shaped helmet. The British have their own shape of helmet. Am I correct in this observation? i only ask because i am a modeler and wanted to start work on some Coalition troops in Iraq.

    thank you for any help

    perhaps i should clarify, i'm speaking more of the western countries than anything else.
    Some east European countries are going fritz. Some Baltic states have the PSGT and Poland has its own version. The Swiss are swapping their M71 for a Fritz. Even the Chinese are at it.
    WTF?? loooll this USA-centrism is funny but its not true Poland has its own helmlet line and our new kevlar helmlets are based on this line that has it beginings in pre39 times

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    british helmets look good

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    Default Re: Modern military helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by perdurabo
    WTF?? loooll this USA-centrism is funny but its not true Poland has its own helmlet line and our new kevlar helmlets are based on this line that has it beginings in pre39 times
    Too quick off the mark m8. I implied that every one was going fritz not PASGT. The wz31 was a true Polish helmet. The wz50 was a Soviet look alike, the wz67 was a mixture but the new wz93 has nothing to do with the "line" you mention. It is a brand new design with its own new suspension system but it is still "fritz". Apart from the Germans and Ausstrians with their Berndorfers, M16's, M18's and then M35's the US was the first with the composite fritz, the PASGT. Like it or not the US started a trend that a lot of countries are following. The wz93 has nothing to do with the PASGT or the ACH but it is still a fritz. It is the basic shape that is called "Fritz" coz it was the Germans who started it with their teutonic helmet design.

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    The Germans did some pretty thorough investigation to come up with that design and its the best compromise shape. Most modern designs are variations of that theme. The UK helmet did not follow that design and I'm not sure why. It might have been the desire to have a helmet with an add on visor for internal security purposes necessitated the current shape, it might also have been that the presence of Fritz type helmets in Northern Ireland may have had unfortunate associations with the SS. ( There was a riot helmet that was issued for internal security usage called the "Cromwell" - and this name was dropped as it was regarded as insensitive, Cromwell having been a rather nasty b*st*rd to the Irish. )

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