Pictures from Yugoslav civil war 91-99

[RSK]

Kapedani, posting this pic makes me want to kick your ass so ****ing bad!

****in prick!

http://img136.exs.cx/img136/43/hg462h0kq.jpg

[bloddyaxe]

Indeed that picture should have had a graphic warning thingy,

[zealot]

very poignant indeed .

[Sayeret]

Whats the story behind this picture?



What kind of weapons are those?



What kind of gun is this?

[Kapedani]

What kind of weapons are those

The rocket launcher on the left is a Yugoslav-made M79 Osa taken from the Serb Army. The one on the right is an Armburst anti-tank rocket supplied by the Albanian Army.

What kind of gun is this?

Thats a 12.7mm DShK machine gun, probably Chinese-made, from the Albanian Army.

[4nzix]

Albania has an army??????

[BHM]

Albania has an army??????

HEj easy, my friend....
They do have an army, how strong and good that is another story.....and not for this topic.
Don`t start or you will destroy good thread, you know how balkans people are when they start argument and coments like yours are just right "spice" to inflame them.

Regards

[Mitch Rapp]

Since there is no one from Macedonia here I will post several pictures from their police unit that fought against Albanian separtists in Macedonia and exterminated them on every step. They have ben trained, equiped (note serbian made uniforms, guns, knives, helmets) and several members from Serbian disbanded Unit for Special Operation were training and fighting amongst Tigers. They even consider each other as brother-unit.











with dead albanians









more on their web site

http://www.lions.org.mk/lions/index.html

Following are different picture from the Alban-Macedonian clash











For complete list of pictures visit
http://www.aeronautics.ru/ link archives

As far as I remember Serbian Unit for Special Operations JSO was disbanded after the clashes in Macedonia ended.

[Syncmaster]

Ahm...someone really needs to MODERATE this thread so that political discussions or comments are not made. It is VERY easy to start an explosion among Balkan members if even one word is thrown around.

Ok...so maybe if someone could DELETE political comments and enforce it...that would be great...becasue we'r on a roll here and have plenty of good pictures.

fought against Albanian separtists in Macedonia and exterminated them on every step.

ok...lol

It looks to me more like a training scene, the opponents only pretending to be dead. But I can't tell for sure, can I...

Picture is certainly a fake. NLA fighters wore fatigue uniforms with lots of patches on them so they were easily recognizable. Furthermore...notice no blood at all. That is obviously either a propaganda picture or a training scenario.

In the Belgrade war museum there are also some confiscated weapons from the Albanian side. I saw some very modern western assault weapons and even a berret 12,7mm sniper!!! Can someone explain? We also know that it is higly probable that the money for albanian weapons and equipment is of mafia (drugs, prostitutes etc, everything Albanians are famous for) origin.

We got nice tang...thats for sure...but again political and derogatory comments like those shouldn't be here. BUT...since I'm a nice guy...I'll answer it anyway. Regardless of propaganda, most of the financing for the KLA's war effort came from donations from its own members as well as donations from Albanians throughout the world. In Switzerland for example Albanians living there donated as much as 30% of their paychecks to the war effort during the months of war.

There is an interesting documentary made in the US about an Albanian living in the US who used his own money he made running his construction business to legally buy weapons, uniforms and equipment in the US. The focus of the documentary was how he bought one of those 12.7mm sniper rifles legally at a US store, legally took it with him by plane throughout Europe and into Albania (of course all legal...he had papers and everything)...then drove to the Kosova-Albanain border and smuggeled it accross to the fighters in Kosova. This is how such weapons ended up in KLA's hands...and there were indeed plenty of these weapons. Also, many KLA fighters coming from abroad, brought with them weapons and uniforms they had purchased for themselves in the West...after all if you'r going to go to war...you might as well buy your own gun.

Also, large numbers of other weapons were goten off Serb soldiers...and also large numbers of modern weapons (besides the Aks and the usual stuff) came from the Albanian Army.

Thanx mate!

[Syncmaster]

What kind of weapons are those

The rocket launcher on the left is a Yugoslav-made M79 Osa taken from the Serb Army. The one on the right is an Armburst anti-tank rocket supplied by the Albanian Army.

What kind of gun is this?

Thats a 12.7mm DShK machine gun, probably Chinese-made, from the Albanian Army.

That OSA anti tank rocket is simmilar to German panzershreck and American bazooka AT weapons of WW2. It's reusable, unguided, short (few 100m) range rocket launcher, an outdated type of weapon by today's standards. Armbrust is simmilar, but it is a lighter and single use weapon that emits no flash and smoke when fired, just a loud bang. That's why it can be fired from enclosed spaces such as buildings, rooms and vehicles. It was heavily used in every conflict on the ex-YU teritory, because it was purchased abroad by slovenian and croatian teritorial army after the Yugoslav army locked away the arsenals of these two forces in 1990 and 1991 under the pretence of proper safekeeping and maintenance.

[mmc2002]

I am pretty sure that this one is a fake. I can remember that i saw the original pic somewhere in this forum. When i look at the equipment i guess that these guys are from the german SEK (Sondereinsatzkommando).

[Upfrontreporting]

Kapedani,

you call for order and good behavior in this "political-rant" sensitive thread and this is why I think the following comment you made concerning a very graphic picture is very improper:

Serb soldier killed in his vehicle by KLA sniper (rated PG-13...sorry RSK but you'r not old enough) ...not god behavior!

Otherwise this is a very interesting thread.




regards
Upfrontreporting

[zealot]

I am pretty sure that this one is a fake. I can remember that i saw the original pic somewhere in this forum. When i look at the equipment i guess that these guys are from the german SEK (Sondereinsatzkommando).

Thanks for clearing it up, i was really baffled
no offence, buyt this guy looks way too professional to be an Albanian fighter

[Kapedani]

It was heavily used in every conflict on the ex-YU teritory, because it was purchased abroad by slovenian and croatian teritorial army after the Yugoslav army locked away the arsenals of these two forces in 1990 and 1991 under the pretence of proper safekeeping and maintenance.

Also German intelligence supplied large numbers of these weapons to the anti-Serb combatents. Albania got plenty of these already since 1994...even though we weren't fighting. The weapons in use by KLA certainly are those supplied to the Albanian Army.

Thanks for clearing it up, i was really baffled
no offence, buyt this guy looks way too professional to be an Albanian fighter

Perhaps...but I'll believe it when I see the "original" picture first...if there is such a picture. AKSH Special Operations units are just as well equipped with western weaponry and buddy armor. This picture...if it is AKSH...was certainly taken in 2000-2001...not during the war. Since then the KLA, NLA and AKSH have undertaken a large rearmament program with more modern equipment and armor, preparing just in case of another war. If you look at some other pictures of NLA and AKSh fighters I posted...you'll note many of them are just as well equipped. There is nothing special about his equipment. MP5s can be easily found either from the Albanian Army or captured from Serbs or bought in the west freely. Kevlar helmets and armor also easy to get...and as was evident from the NLA, their Military Police units were equipped with advanced communication gear.

Also please make sure to differentiate...these are not Albanian ARMY pictures of personel...they are of fighting men in Kosova or Macedonia. The Albanian Army was not involved...at least directly with soldiers.

you call for order and good behavior in this "political-rant" sensitive thread and this is why I think the following comment you made concerning a very graphic picture is very improper:

Serb soldier killed in his vehicle by KLA sniper (rated PG-13...sorry RSK but you'r not old enough) ...not god behavior!

Maybe not...but he had it coming. Its not good behavior to say many of the things said here about what I posted...but I'v let them go. The picture was graphic...yes...but no more than many others posted here.

Albania has an army??????

Hehe...funny. Perhaps you should ask the Serbian Army...they met them "once or twice" in battle. Yes we do...and quite a good one...but this isn't the place for such a discussion.

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What is interesting about this picture of an UCPMB soldier is that he appears to be carrying an Albanian-made "Type C" weapon...this being an Albanian derrivative of the Type-56 which is little known and of which very few pictures even exist.


UCPMB soldiers at a headquarter building








UCPMB soldier inside his looted home


UCPMB commander holding press conference


What kind of a gun is this guy carrying?? UCPMB soldier

[Johan M]

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Perhaps...but I'll believe it when I see the "original" picture first...if there is such a picture. AKSH Special Operations units are just as well equipped with western weaponry and buddy armor. This picture...if it is AKSH...was certainly taken in 2000-2001...not during the war. Since then the KLA, NLA and AKSH have undertaken a large rearmament program with more modern equipment and armor, preparing just in case of another war. ]

are you serious here? I thought there had been a disarmament of the KLA?