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    Boxer in AFG pics and story:

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    In Camp Marmal, the Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles (ATV) were prepared for their mission in Afghanistan. When their crews arrive in the next days, the modern armored transport vehicles will further increase the combat effectiveness of the force in the north of Afghanistan.

    "The Boxer ATVs are all combat-ready," states an employee of Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) in Camp Marmal. On the 23rd and 24th of July, two Antonov transport aircraft brought a total of five Boxer ATVs to Mazar-e Sharif. After they were unloaded on the airfield of Camp Marmal, the armored transport vehicles were immediately examined as to any possible damages during the flight. Then, the functions of the electronic systems had to be tested under the climatic conditions in Afghanistan. Within five days, all vehicles had been checked and are now ready for their handover to the Task Force (TF) MES. When the TF MES has taken over the Boxers, soldiers will deploy to the Observation Post (OP) North with four of them. In patrol operations, it provides high combat power through modern optics and remote-controlled weapon stations.

    Smooth maintenance and repair

    A smooth maintenance and repair of these vehicles is of enormous importance to the force due to their protective performance. Thus, large amounts of spare parts are kept ready by KMW in Camp Marmal. The same amount is planned for the OP North. Soldiers have been previously trained for smaller repair works in OP North by KMW in Aachen, Germany. A fifth Boxer ATV is retained in Camp Marmal as an exchange reserve in order to be able to quickly react to failures. In case a Boxer breaks down, the replacement vehicle is immediately provided to the TF MES. The broken down vehicle will be brought to Camp Marmal, unless it can be repaired in the OP. There the required repair is carried out.
    The Boxer ATV is based on a modular system. It can be used as group transport, command or medical vehicle, depending on the requirements. For this, individual assemblies have to be exchanged.

    Improved protection for the soldiers

    The safety of soldiers inside the vehicle has also reached new levels. For example, the seat belts contain airbags which – just like in a regular vehicle – inflate upon impact and protect the soldiers.
    The Boxer ATV does not only have a different look than the Dingo and the Eagle. It also provides soldiers with extensive stowage space for weapons, ammunitions and other materiel in the crew compartment. The seats can be adjusted in height and slid towards the middle of the crew compartment or towards the outer hull. In addition, there are height-adjustable headrests for optimal relief of the neck area. The armrests between the seats also serve as rifle holders.
    A special feature for the soldiers is the possibility to heat up water inside the vehicle by means of an installed 2-stage electric kettle. One ready-made meal of the field ration of a soldier also fits in a part of the electric kettle. Soldiers can directly tap the warm water from a faucet. In this way, the Boxer ATV can also support soldiers with regard to their physical sustainability. No food no fight.
    “The idea is that the crew can remain aboard the Boxer with their rations for at least 72 hours," said Henning D., employee of KMW in Camp Marmal. For this timeframe, other areas have to be considered as well. Toilet seats can be quickly installed by hand under the seats. Afterwards, the inbuilt feces bag is disposed of and the seat cushion reinstalled.
    After all, however, the added value for soldiers on missions lies in the improved mine protection and the ballistic protection against fire from medium-caliber weapons. The Boxer ATV enables soldiers to operate autonomously on the battlefield and in the end increases the combat effectiveness of the infantry group by its improved protective equipment.


    110702-O-XXXXK-001 MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan. (July 28, 2011) The first German Army Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles deployed to Northern Afghanistan arrive at Camp Marmal, International Security Assistance Force, Regional Command North. The Boxer is equipped with modern optics and remote-controlled weapons stations and provides improved protection to its crews. (RC North Public Affairs photo by Tech. Sgt. Florian Krumbach/Released) Pressestelle_MeS/Krumbach

    110702-O-XXXXK-002 MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan. (July 28, 2011) The first German Army Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles deployed to Northern Afghanistan arrive at Camp Marmal, International Security Assistance Force, Regional Command North. The Boxer is equipped with modern optics and remote-controlled weapons stations and provides improved protection to its crews. The Boxer is also equipped with crew toilets as seen here. (RC North Public Affairs photo by Tech. Sgt. Florian Krumbach/Released) Pressestelle_MeS/Krumbach


    110702-O-XXXXK-003 MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan. (July 28, 2011) The first German Army Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles deployed to Northern Afghanistan arrive at Camp Marmal, International Security Assistance Force, Regional Command North. The Boxer is equipped with modern optics and remote-controlled weapons stations and provides improved protection to its crews. The Boxer is also equipped with height-adjustable seats as seen here. (RC North Public Affairs photo by Tech. Sgt. Florian Krumbach/Released) Pressestelle_MeS/Krumbach

    110702-O-XXXXK-004 MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan. (July 28, 2011) The first German Army Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles deployed to Northern Afghanistan arrive at Camp Marmal, International Security Assistance Force, Regional Command North. The Boxer is equipped with modern optics and remote-controlled weapons stations and provides improved protection to its crews. The Boxer is also equipped with a kettle to heat water as seen here. (RC North Public Affairs photo by Tech. Sgt. Florian Krumbach/Released) Pressestelle_MeS/Krumbach

    110702-O-XXXXK-005 MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan. (July 28, 2011) The first German Army Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles deployed to Northern Afghanistan arrive at Camp Marmal, International Security Assistance Force, Regional Command North. The Boxer is equipped with modern optics and remote-controlled weapons stations and provides improved protection to its crews. The Boxer is also equipped with a crew toilet as seen here. (RC North Public Affairs photo by Tech. Sgt. Florian Krumbach/Released) Pressestelle_MeS/Krumbach


    110702-O-XXXXK-008 MAZAR-E-SHARIF, Afghanistan. (July 28, 2011) The first German Army Boxer Armored Transport Vehicles deployed to Northern Afghanistan arrive at Camp Marmal, International Security Assistance Force, Regional Command North. The Boxer is equipped with modern optics and remote-controlled weapons stations and provides improved protection to its crews. The Boxer is also equipped with numerous mirrors and cameras to give its crew a 360-degree view of its surroundings. (RC North Public Affairs photo by Tech. Sgt. Florian Krumbach/Released) Pressestelle_MeS/Krumbach

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    A nice and clean mobile field toilet, sheer luxury on the battlefield.

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    They probably will build in a second one soon, coz the ladies complain about sharing the loo..

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    I like this Boxer ATV, reminds me of another favorite Patria AMV.

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    So many pictures of main feature on Boxer - toilet!

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    What is the advantage of a toilet in a APC?
    I see it totally as unnecessary, waste of space and extra complications.

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    Try to sh1t in an NBC enviroment mr Bundy

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    @ Al-Bundy ( sad that especially Al-Bundy disapproves this toilet ^^)

    Its just under one seat that can be converted by simply pulling up the seat. You need seats anyway in an APC dont you ?

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    another point i've heard is from some people complaining how it's a right crappy situation when you're rattling about in an apc on ex, just waiting and praying you'll dismount sometime soon, so you can jump out and lay a cable. its not like you can stop a platoon\company\battalion movement, just because you've got a bowel movement coming on. Ad in Terry Taliban possibly taking a shot at you and the rest of the unit, then a crapper in the APC becomes an engenious idea.

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    It's no Ferguson.....when already talking about the ****ter in the Boxer....It seems not to be that simple because one placard says Toilettensitz (toiletseat) while the other says Feldtoilette (fieldtoilet)? Following the description, and to make things complicated you may have to disassemble the seat and attach it to the fieldtoilet. Or the fieldtoilet seat can be put outside the Boxer? Confusion....so many toilets hopefully the armour proves itself then one can have a fine dump at the delight of your comrades with nice odours from the heated MREs.....

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    or is it that fieldtoilet means that there is the chemical department where all the stuff is stored until emptied? I guess it will be used in real cases of emergency only. Just imagine you need to change places with the one sitting there on the normal seat, get off your trousers and pants with all the other gear in a room in which you can´t stay up right by far and that might on top of it all be moving and shaking.

    Relax. Have fun.

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    The toilet is useless, things coult be perfectly done without such luxery items.
    Take a chear make a hole in it and use a plastic bag, this thing needs to be cleaned e.c.
    Just d*mn improvise instead requesting more luxery items, what others said the ladies are gona whine now to about privacy e.c.
    This thing coult take a whole unit out of action due sicknes, nothing as clean and relax to take a sh*t in the woods.
    A APC/IFV moves the guys and equiment from A to B, most of the time your outside becuse it`s a large target.
    Even in the APC you coult take a bottle or a bag, buddies are there to help..
    Last edited by Dc5-driver; 08-05-2011 at 05:58 AM.

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    An interesting feature.

    Here's hope the Boxer APCs will serve our troops well on the battlefield.

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    Are they seriously talking up a BV (Boiling Vessel) as a new invention?

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    and again why buy hundreds of units of an untested APC,

    the boxer is at best a technologie study
    too heavy ,to big, wheels ,almost unarmed , built for use on European roads and not in the desert type terrain of today's conflicts without propper infrastructure like bridges

    In the worst case it's a great camping toilet with NBC protection
    even fancy adjustable seats and a cooking plate are not so great if u got stuck in the mud ore the tire catches fire from a simple molotov cocktail ...

    this beast has a ground pressure of over 4 Tonnes!! per wheel


    i hope for the troops in the field i'm wrong an it proofs usefull after all

    also i hope for photos .... plenty of it .. i must admit it looks cool at least

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