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    You're all welcome, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Astaran View Post
    One can ***** about the armament as much as one wants [...]
    there is nothing to ***** and moan about. The Tiger shown in the pics carries basically the same armament as the OH-58D (1x 12.7mm M3 and 1x rocket launcher), but comes with a lot better protection for crew and machine. Don't know about all these fancy recon assets in the mast, but I doubt they're deemed to be useless.

    People just ***** around for the sake of *****ing, nothing more.

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    on the side before, why is that Army Sgt. carrying a M16A2???

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    Taken from the Bundeswehr's Facebook page:






    beautiful vehicle. thanks for sharing

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    Die Einheimischen ziehen immer ihre Schuhe aus, bevor sie ein Gebäude betreten.

    Das belgische Team im Gespräch mit dem Dorfältesten im Rektorenzimmer einer Schule.

    Sicherung eines PsyOps Team im Raum nördlich von Kunduz.

    Das belgische Team überreicht ein Geschenk, während OL Sven T. absichert.

    Afghanische Kinder.

    Sicherung eines PsyOps Team im Raum nördlich von Kunduz.

    Deutsche Soldaten der QRU überprüfen Fahrzeuge, die auf der Strasse fahren, bevor sie den Ort des Aufklärungsgespräches passieren dürfen.

    Ein kleiner Junge winkt freundlich auf seinem Fahrrad.

    Sicherung eines PsyOps Team im Raum nördlich von Kunduz.

    Afghanische Mädchen bestaunen die Fahrzeuge der Patrouille.

    Ein afghanischer Friedhof.

    Afghanische Bevölkerung mit Esel.

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    Afghanische Kinder.

    Möhrenernte in Afghanistan.

    Lagebesprechung mit Oberleutnant Sven T., Führer des Joint Fire Support Teams (links) mit dem Zugführer der QRU, Hauptfeldwebel Kristian K. (2.v.l.) und dessen Team.

    Sicherung eines PsyOps Team im Raum nördlich von Kunduz.

    Sicherung eines PsyOps Team im Raum nördlich von Kunduz.

    OL Sven T. nimmt Kontakt mit seinem Team auf dem FENNEK auf.

    Afghanische Kinder zeigen den Soldaten aus dem Bereich der Sanität, wie man in Afghanistan aus Papier ein Flugzeug bastelt.

    Ein afghanisches Kind beobachtet die deutschen Soldaten.

    Bonbons sind bei Kindern immer sehr gefragt.

    Soldaten und Zugführerer der QRU gehen zu den Fahrzeugen zurück und verlegen zurück ins Camp Kunduz.

    FENNEK

    Tactical Operation Center (TOC)

    Oberleutnant Sven T. reinigt am Ende des Tages seine Waffe mit Druckluft-Spray.

    Antreten am Ende des Arbeitstages.

    Oberleutnant Sven T., Führer des Joint Fire Support Teams erhält am Abend ein kleines Geschenk zum Nikolaustag.

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    Great pictures, thanks a lot.

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    "Der Alpha Zug der QRU in Kunduz wünscht allen Familien, Freunden und den Kameraden/innen des Team H aus Hagenow besinnliche Feiertage, viel Schnee (denn wir haben hier 20 Grad und Sonne am Tag) und einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayaker View Post

    Originally Posted by AnoSynum
    Curious to think that politics intervened for the Brits as well. After all, LMT is an American company, right? It's not like it was a British company in who's favour they were intervening. Either way, is there a serious modern competitor in the .308 semi-auto range nowadays which isn't a Stoner system?




    Indeed, that's what threw me off as well. There must be more to it than meets the eye.
    Turns out the testing team preferred the HK417! Because the LM7 (testing version of the L129) had a stainless steel barrel, no forward assist, fixed stock, no select firing (would have liked full auto function for CQB - don't shoot the messenger about the merits of that one) poor bipod, weak magazine springs and different parts were manufactured by different subcontractors (logistic pain for spare parts) Whereas with HK it is all in house manufactured and was ready out of the box. Although it was mentioned that nobody thought it was a poor rifle, each and every one preferred the German option. But politics dictated it had to be American which upset the testing team to no end of course. They realised that a poor performing rifle equals the very real possibility of more a body of men being changed into bodies of men (sorry, couldn't help but to add a bit of Blackadder in Germany's thread )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steak-Sauce View Post
    Part 1 of a series about the OP North: Entlang der Lebensadern: Auf Patrouille vom OP North (1)
    Part 2: Entlang der Lebensadern: Auf Patrouille vom OP North (2)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steak-Sauce View Post
    You're all welcome, but...
    there is nothing to ***** and moan about. The Tiger shown in the pics carries basically the same armament as the OH-58D (1x 12.7mm M3 and 1x rocket launcher), but comes with a lot better protection for crew and machine. Don't know about all these fancy recon assets in the mast, but I doubt they're deemed to be useless.

    People just ***** around for the sake of *****ing, nothing more.
    Shouldn't the Tiger be more of an equivalent to the Apache?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b0sco View Post
    Shouldn't the Tiger be more of an equivalent to the Apache?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b0sco View Post
    Shouldn't the Tiger be more of an equivalent to the Apache?
    No. Not in my opinion. Why? Because it's partly armored and has stub wings for its armament?

    Remember, the UHT is basically a Bo-105 PAH replacement. We wanted it, now we have it. Today I still regard it as a PAH, yet as an Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter (ARH) as well. Nothing wrong with having a turretless combat helicopter. Which is more or less the only reason why people complain about it. As if it's the helicopter's ****, for crying out loud.

    What many critics don't get is that the Bundeswehr has only one single type of helicopter (UH Tiger) for missions that other nations would do with two or more types of helicopters. Americans fly AH-64, AH-1Z as attack choppers and the OH-58 for reconnaissance. The latter is supposed to be replaced by a new recon helo. If an Apache could do the same thing, why looking for a replacement at all? Money. They have (and sometimes don't have) the funds to operate more than one type. We lack money, therefore we can only use the Tiger for many different roles. The French fly around with HAD and HAP Tigers, but still rely on the Gazelle - as shown with their involvement in the Libyan civil war. The Brits operate even three types: Apache, Lynx and Gazelle. I'm not sure how long the Spaniards will go with the Bo 105 (HA.15), and if the Italians use their A109 for combat support and/or recce. But these armies are cash-strapped, too.

    Besides, do people know that the Apache's MTOW is 10t, compared to the Tiger's 6t? That's a whopping difference of 4t, ladies and gentlemen. 4 tons (!) of armor, fuel, possible armament, etc. And still, the (German) Tiger is supposed to do every job the Apache does today, with a minimum of changes, for half the price, and being eco-friendly at the same time. Nuts.

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    Thanks for the explanation gents.

    Though I was under the impression that a fully loaded Apache only costs about one third of a Tiger ( $ 20 mil. vs. $ 59 mil.).

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    I'd be interested in what these numbers involve.

    For comparison, India is apparently going to buy 22 AH-64E for $1.4bn, or ca. $63.6m for each helo. Indonesia, on the other hand, is being offered eight (8) AH-64E for $1.42bn, or ca. 177.5m for each helo, but including engines, Arrowhead turrets, Longbow radars, EW suites, 140 Hellfires, launchers and other armament. Qatar requested the buy of 24 -E's along with a huge load of associated equipment, totalling $3.13bn, or $130.4m each.

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    Just a couple of snapshots I took of the Kameraden hanging out with us...






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