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    Quote Originally Posted by -DENO- View Post
    Maybe.more light ,more quick rate of fire,little back kicking,and 30 raund of mags...
    And today commando units usually aren't using G3.In this thay all commando birgades passed Hk 33.
    i have never understod why Turkey went with the G3 and Hk33 for so long!

    (btw i need to ask my uncle about that gun)

    i dont know about the past, but was there plans about replacing the G3 with some other gun. i know it is now, but some decades back?
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    I found this,,Gendarmarie Mi-17 over Ankara,Photo by Ceyhun Pursak;

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    i have never understod why Turkey went with the G3 and Hk33 (btw i need to ask my uncle about that gun) for so long!

    i dont know about the past, but was there plans about replacing the G3 with some other gun. i know it is now, but some decades back?


    MKE MPT 7.62 .Hala arazi testleri devam ediyor arazi testleri bitiminde TSK MKE tarafından üzerinde 2-3 küçük rötuş isteyecek ve rötuşlanmış model 2012 sonlarında seri üretime girecek.Uzun lafın kısası 2013 gibi bu tüfek başta komando birlikleri olmak üzere dağıtılmaya başlanılıp yeni standart piyade tüfeğimiz olacak

    Translate:G3 is going to replace this rifle.Our MKEK made 7.62 modern assault rifle...
    Turkish Army ınterested this rifle.In this time army members are testing this rifle prototype. In fact the end of 2012 this rifle is going to became fast prodictuon lines and going to be standart rifle in Turkish Army...

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    that is a HK417?

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    that is a HK417?
    Actually it to look like Hk 417 but this rifle have some different modifications.Different polymer stock,different barrel and flash hider,different trigger and trigger safe systems, different handgrip,different front and back sight systems and different rail system...
    We say this rifle is MKE version of Hk 417 but NOT under licence produce or something that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -DENO- View Post
    Actually it to look like Hk 417 but this rifle have some different modifications.Different polymer stock,different barrel and flash hider,different trigger and trigger safe systems, different handgrip,different front and back sight systems and different rail system...
    We say this rifle is MKE version of Hk 417 but NOT under licence produce or something that...
    what type of ammuniton does it shoot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    what type of ammuniton does it shoot?
    Are you blind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -DENO- View Post
    Are you blind ?
    sorry missed it... what is it with Turkish soldiers and 7.62?

    why not go with 5.56?

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    sorry missed it... what is it with Turkish soldiers and 7.62?

    why not go with 5.56?
    Çünkü bizde 7.62-5.56 mm geçişi sağlıklı bir şekilde yapılamadı.başta Vietnam da 7.62 lik M1 ve m14 lerin gücüne alışmış ABD askerleri ellerine 5.56 M16 geçince de beğenmemişti çok güçsüz demişlerdi ama silahlar ile operasyonel tecrübeleri arttıktan sonra bu silah onların eli ayağı gibi oldu.işte biz de bu geçiş evresini bir türlü yapamadık artık eğitim zafiyetimi deyim yoksa terör belası yüzünden midir deyim bilemiyorum.Başka bir neden ise G.Doğu coğrafyası dağlık olduğu 5.56 mm mühimmat için farklı mesafe yüksekliklerden atılan mermi çekirdeğindeki küçülme nedeni ile mermi hem hedefe daha küçük veriyor hemde belli mesafeden sonra sekiyor

    translate: Exacly our soldiers don't love 5.56 and they used to accommodate 7.62 ammunation and 7.62 ammunation is more effective than the other ammunition in the S.Anatolia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -DENO- View Post
    Çünkü bizde 7.62-5.56 mm geçişi sağlıklı bir şekilde yapılamadı.başta Vietnam da 7.62 lik M1 ve m14 lerin gücüne alışmış ABD askerleri ellerine 5.56 M16 geçince de beğenmemişti çok güçsüz demişlerdi ama silahlar ile operasyonel tecrübeleri arttıktan sonra bu silah onların eli ayağı gibi oldu.işte biz de bu geçiş evresini bir türlü yapamadık artık eğitim zafiyetimi deyim yoksa terör belası yüzünden midir deyim bilemiyorum.Başka bir neden ise G.Doğu coğrafyası dağlık olduğu 5.56 mm mühimmat için farklı mesafe yüksekliklerden atılan mermi çekirdeğindeki küçülme nedeni ile mermi hem hedefe daha küçük veriyor hemde belli mesafeden sonra sekiyor

    translate: Exacly our soldiers don't love 5.56 and they used to accommodate 7.62 ammunation and 7.62 ammunation is more effective than the other ammunition in the S.Anatolia...
    did we try? like did we order some weapons for our soldiers to test or was it just "no we are happy with this one"?

    why wouldnt 5.56 be effective? i see a lot of Special forces (mainly maroon berets) showing them of!

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    did we try? like did we order some weapons for our soldiers to test or was it just "no we are happy with this one"?

    why wouldnt 5.56 be effective? i see a lot of Special forces (mainly maroon berets) showing them of!
    hayır güzel kardeşim sen bir bordo berelinin aldığı eğitimi daha 10 günlük silah eğitimini yeni tamamlamış ve yol devriyesi olarak yollara düşen düz askerimize vereceksen tamam onda sorun yok.öyle olsa ben de standart tüfek olarak TSK da Fn F2000 görmek isterdim ama.Bu arada Türkçe biliyorsun deği mi? /Are you know Turkish?

    Translate : Because we don't educated our standart soldiers for maroon beret standarts.They are SPECİAL UNİTS but in S.Anatolia usually many soldier have 10 day weapon training...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -DENO- View Post
    hayır güzel kardeşim sen bir bordo berelinin aldığı eğitimi daha 10 günlük silah eğitimini yeni tamamlamış ve yol devriyesi olarak yollara düşen düz askerimize vereceksen tamam onda sorun yok.öyle olsa ben de standart tüfek olarak TSK da Fn F2000 görmek isterdim ama.Bu arada Türkçe biliyorsun deği mi? /Are you know Turkish?

    Translate : Because we don't educated our standart soldiers for maroon beret standarts.They are SPECİAL UNİTS but in S.Anatolia usually many soldier have 10 day weapon training...
    evet Turkce biliyom, ama kurallar Ingilizce yaz diyor da ondan...


    why the F2000?

    and why we are at it, why dont we give our soldiers proper training like the US does? it's not like we cant afford, the equipment and all that, i look at a regular Turkish soldier and i am afraid because they doesnt have the best protection that can be offered. while here at Norway a regular soldier has as good protection as a US soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    evet Turkce biliyom, ama kurallar Ingilizce yaz diyor da ondan...


    why the F2000?

    and why we are at it, why dont we give our soldiers proper training like the US does? it's not like we cant afford, the equipment and all that, i look at a regular Turkish soldier and i am afraid because they doesnt have the best protection that can be offered. while here at Norway a regular soldier has as good protection as a US soldier.

    Why Fn f2000? Good question ın this time by the way f2000

    Norvay Army:22.000 active personal
    Turkish Army: 800.000 active personal

    We have large army and why this is not 5.56* Look at US NAvy Seals they using 7.62 Fn scar rifles? And this rifle has last tecnology systems.It is very good decide
    işin kısası niye burda bize gariban edebiyatı yapıyorsun ki?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -DENO- View Post
    Why Fn f2000? Good question ın this time by the way f2000

    Norvay Army:22.000 active personal
    Turkish Army: 800.000 active personal

    We have large army and why this is not 5.56* Look at US NAvy Seals they using 7.62 Fn scar rifles? And this rifle has last tecnology systems.It is very good decide
    işin kısası niye burda bize gariban edebiyatı yapıyorsun ki?
    Translate:Why were you doing bizarre letters?
    i dont know... guess i just want the best for our soldiers

    i know Norway is only 22 000 active and Turkey almost a million, but we do have a bigger economy than then right?

    cant they just expand the defence incomes a bit more so we can give the soldiers the proper NATO standard gears!

    and you forgot to mention why F2000
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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    i dont know... guess i just want the best for our soldiers

    i know Norway is only 22 000 active and Turkey almost a million, but we do have a bigger economy than then right?

    cant they just expand the defence incomes a bit more so we can give the soldiers the proper NATO standard gears!

    and you forgot to mention why F2000
    Norvay have many ,many big banks .In Norway goverment service 1 people of 40.000 USD in every year
    In Turkey goverment service 1 people 8.000 USD in every year.

    Norway have $255.285 billion export in a year
    Turkey We have $151.000 billion expert in a year.

    Exacly Norvay's economy is more bigger than our economy,öğrende gel canım benim

    Onun dışında nedense senin düşüncene göre her askere en iyi silah verilmeli fakat o askere o silahın hakkını verebileceği bir eğitim verilmezse o silah fos çıkar.Şimdi deme bana Bordo lar şunu kullanıyor bunu kullanıyo sen bir bordonun aldığı eğitimi her standart piyadene ver bi ondan sonra gel o silahı ver

    translate:I is very different Special unit weapon to standart service weapon.What can we do? we are doing the best solution and It's 7.62 simple

    This argument is awfull.Lets end...

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