160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment

[D-gin]

Think it is a Blackwater aircraft, or maybe a 'company' aircraft. To my knowledge the Regiment is not using 530's.

That helo has been discussed many, many times on this forum and on SOCNET and thus far no one has any good info on it, But we know it's not a PMC aircraft.


I'm not trying to start an argument or anything I'm just saying what has been stated before.....Cheers.

[Ravage]

Talked to the guys at socnet, they don't know whose bird is it exactly, but yes its not one of 160th.

BTW, hello everybody

[Ravage]

Got some more MH-47 pics. Warning, some maybe reposts, and I'm not sure that all are MH's:

[Ravage]

A myspace vid:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1149095874

Description: This is my squad fast roping with special forces last year (before we left for Iraq).

[Echo300]

Nice vid, Ravage

[Ravage]

A little bird landing on top of one of Uday's palaces:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=1120693647

and a DAP making hell

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoid=692774921

[Ravage]

Ok stupid question. For what reason in there a co-pilot in a MH-6 ? why do you need two people ?

[Creeper]

Ok stupid question. For what reason in there a co-pilot in a MH-6 ? why do you need two people ?

IMHO: 2 heads are better than one.

BTW: Never a 'stupid question'- just the one that is not asked!!!

[Ravage]

MH-60K Blackhawks:

[maloryII]

Ok stupid question. For what reason in there a co-pilot in a MH-6 ? why do you need two people ?

There are dozens of reasons... but the most basic (and morbid) is should one pilot be killed or otherwise suffer a demise, you still have one pilot left to fly the aircraft.

[playtym]

I don't think these have been posted here before - apologies for any reposts.

[Ravage]

Some are reposts, but some a hires of those that have been posted....thank you

[Ravage]

There are dozens of reasons... but the most basic (and morbid) is should one pilot be killed or otherwise suffer a demise, you still have one pilot left to fly the aircraft.

So what does the co-pilot do during an op. ? sits on his ass and enjoyes the view ?

[AlphaOneSix]

So what does the co-pilot do during an op. ? sits on his ass and enjoyes the view ?

There is almost no end of tasks that the pilot not on the controls can perform, such as communications (with ground elements, command elements, other aircraft, etc. Lots of talking going on during a mission), navigation (entering new coordinates, making sure the flight's on time, setting new routes, deconflicting airspace with other flights), assistance with obstacle clearing and avoidance (it's the wire/missile/tree you *didn't* see that gets you), and monitoring the instruments and caution lights. In fact, the pilot that is not flying the aircraft is normally busier than the pilot on the controls. The pilot on the controls has just one job, and that's flying the aircraft. He needs to keep his eyes out of the cockpit as much as possible, and needs to be aware of where he is going at all times. The co-pilot has a ton of other jobs, all of which allow the pilot to concentrate on his primary duty of keeping his eyes outside and flying. Both pilots are extremely important, and they regularly switch roles (not necessarily during one mission, but from mission to mission they might). In fact, at least in the U.S. Army, there is no such term as "copilot" . The senior aviator in the aircraft (not always the highest ranking) is the "PC" or "pilot in command" and the junior aviator is the "PI" or "pilot". There are exceptions to this, but this covers the majority of situations.

[Ravage]

Finaly someone explained that to me