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    Default Us Forces stretched too thin?

    I just was watching Tv and it said that the Us "Old Guard" was activated to do some terrorism fighting and protection in the Horn of Africa. Normally this unit does cerimonies, and protects the tomb of the unknowns. This unit is regularly trained (as I understand it) and hasnt been used outside of the States since Vietnam.

    These leads to my poll, do you think Us Forces are stretched too thin?

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    Definately. Bush needs to start doing some damage control to clean up after the Clinton/Gore administration.

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    It wasn't just the last administration, thought I couldn't stand Clinton either. It's Bush just as much. I don't remember him build the military up before going into two wars. His boat, his fault. Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

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    With the current administrations foreign policy, yes, our military forces are spread out a bit.

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    Just build Cyborgs, bloody hell am I the only one that thinks of solutions around here!

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    I'd say that the US forces are beginning to be stretched too thin, maybe they already are in certain areas.

    However, I hope that there isn't going to be yet another big military operation planned for 2004 since that will certainly crush the lines too thin...

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    Not only that but the logistics gotta be a mess. Making sure everyones supplied in the Horn of Africa, Korea, Germany, Japan, Afghanistan and Iraq costs big $

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    I wouldn't say the miltiary is being stretched too thin because there have been US forces overseas sicne World War II.

    Current US forces outside US not in either Afghanistan or Iraq:

    Japan
    South Korea
    Philippines
    Guam
    Thailand
    Panama
    Bosina
    Kosovo
    Germany
    Diego Garcia
    Republic of Georiga

    Those are the places off the top of my head. The thing is that these are small bases, compared to miltiary bases at home.

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    Only solutions...

    Either + troops or - deployments.

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    What we need is better benefits and pay, not cuts in them as we've seen over the past three years. Your buddies is SF and 160th SOAR are dang hard to replace, but they're they leave in droves as deployements get longer and benefits/pay don't make up for it enough. It's the SNCOs and mid-level officers with families to take care of who the miltiary needs most and loses first when we start asking for people to be away 75 percent of them time. A million new recruits simply can't do the same job as one SF A-Detachment. Nor should they be expected to. Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

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    as I see it, we really are stretched too thin for the work we're doing. even though the pentagon is working on some plan to create more BCT's, we're down to a minimum. when the huge planned replacement move goes underway in a few months, we'll have a grand total of 2 divisions ready to go if some new crisis hits. thats just plain sad. In my personal opinion, we could really use another couple of light divisions (along the lines of the 10th mtn) and maybe some more ACR's. these are the units that are doing the most at the moment, and their nature makes them easy to deploy quickly. just my thoughts.

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    armored cavalry regiment(ACR) =
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    . and their nature makes them easy to deploy quickly.
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    US Navy Lays Off 400 Officers
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    December 12, 2003: An economic recession and the war on terror have given the peacetime military one benefit; lots of volunteers and fewer people wanting to leave. As a result, recruits have been easier to find, and recruiting standards have actually gone up. But now it's gotten to the point where some of the services have more people than they need. The U.S. Navy just announced that it was laying off 400 junior officers. This is an unusual situation, especially with a war going on. But a similar situation has developed with enlisted sailors as well. Here, there were some job categories that simply had more people than were needed. A major factor in these imbalances is that not as many first term officers or sailors are leaving. The surplus sailors were given a chance to retrain for another job, and there has been some similar shuffling around of officers. But for the officers, the end result was that 400 of them don't have a job any more. They are being given six months to find a civilian job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budanski
    US Navy Lays Off 400 Officers
    Strategypage

    December 12, 2003: An economic recession and the war on terror have given the peacetime military one benefit; lots of volunteers and fewer people wanting to leave. As a result, recruits have been easier to find, and recruiting standards have actually gone up. But now it's gotten to the point where some of the services have more people than they need. The U.S. Navy just announced that it was laying off 400 junior officers. This is an unusual situation, especially with a war going on. But a similar situation has developed with enlisted sailors as well. Here, there were some job categories that simply had more people than were needed. A major factor in these imbalances is that not as many first term officers or sailors are leaving. The surplus sailors were given a chance to retrain for another job, and there has been some similar shuffling around of officers. But for the officers, the end result was that 400 of them don't have a job any more. They are being given six months to find a civilian job.
    That's ridiculous. This will come back and bite someone's ass in six months or so.

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    Default US forces (redploy)

    For a start, we need to redeploy forces in Germany, Bosnia & Kosovo. I would say the US mission there is complete.
    I can't speak for the USMC or USN but, I would activate 1 more Army Division and a 1 more Air Force Wing. To help off set the use of National Guard personnel (outside the US)

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