May have, yet still got their asses handed to them with less casualties on allied side to top it off.Originally Posted by ducimus19
Elements of the 82nd were present during the Battle of the Bulge but the 101st were the brunt of the American force. The Bastogne legacy lives on today...many companies, battalions, and regiments still have a "Bastogne Bulldog" as a mascot.
...Which is why they lost most of them, right?
You have 300 years to cover, so why are there so many ww2 units and battles listed?
Twas a big war.You have 300 years to cover, so why are there so many ww2 units and battles listed?
Tis true...tough bastards who fought to the end...HELL how many Kamikaze units have you seen in history?ducimus19 wrote:
The japanese in nearly every theatre of war during ww2. These men made the allies look like boy scouts.
...Which is why they lost most of them, right?
I will definitely say that the Japanese were some tough and determined guys and I think they deserve respect for that (though not for some other things). With that said, they certainly did not make the Allies look like "boy scouts."
mmmmmm...
Yep, talk to the men who survived the Bataan death march. NOT books, I'm talking about talking to the actual men.
Look into their eyes when they are telling you the story.
/sarcasim
Yep, they made the allies look like boy scouts on that march
/sarcsim
idiot
The Huron and Iroquois warriors during the seven years war are in a league of their own. They were efficient guerilla fighters, brutal, and extremely effective.
While the Japanese were brutal, their aggressive behavior and honor made them a force to be reckoned with. The Kamikaze actions during the Pacific war of 44-45 had completely demoralized allied troops. The allies were fortunate to have a steady flow of equipment and naval/ air supremacy, which diminished all ill fated resistance from the Japanese, essentially rendered defensive from 1943 on.
If you want to see REAL tough warriors, you look at the Iroquois. No maps, no GPS, no automatic weapons, no air recon, no medical treatment, no armor. These men were extremely devoted and stupendous warriors. They navigated the forest, ambushed their enemies, and struck fear into the European 'virus' of the New World.
In addition to those stated above (101st, 1st Cav, Several Marine div. for actions on Guadacanal, Tarawa, Iwo, Okinawa...., 1st, 2nd, 12th, etc SS.....)
I would have to say Nelson's squadron at Trafalger.
TF58 in the central pacific campaign. (15 Carriers and 12 Battleships at it's core)
RAF in the summer-fall of 1940 (although if tactics had been changed, the Germans would have handed them their asses.)
Australian 10 Light Horse Regiment charging on foot into well sighted machine gun fire at Gallipoli in WWI under British orders. After watching the 1st Light Horse regiment being destroyed in two and a half minutes the Tenth looked around knowing what the results of the attack would be and shaked each others hands and said goodbye to their mates, went over the top and got cut down wave after wave.
and the americans-europeans had gps, automatic weapons, air recon, and armor? you are talking about native indians and british/americans in the 17th to 18th century right? well hell, we didnt have that **** either! what are you on? maybe we had a gatling in latter wars but it was hardly forest worthy and was so heavy as to slow down anywhere it travelled (custer aka the lack of)
and yes the indians had very effective medicines and great herbal remedies that celebrities pay ass over fist for to get these made for them modern day so yes they had very good medicine, just not so great "doctors". then again if you were wounded back then and werent a higher up officer your doctor would be a bottle of scotch and a hack saw. so they actually had much better "medicine" than we ever did during those times.
they didnt need maps in thier own backyard and homes, and our maps were useless since no one went into every inch of the forest and mapped it out! american maps were of retarted, easy target roads for how many years? how long did it take adventureres to get out and just map a trail across the lands in a single direction let alone with indians help and they had never travelled that far either?
i agree indians are bad asses but for thier stealth, outdoor survivability and mobility and tracking abilities, not any of your very weird reasons.
and yes, if you took a indian today and dumped him in the middle of the woods half a world away he'd be as lost as ****. that is why modern day warriors use gps, because they usually dont fight in thier backyard!
I just saw Band of brothers..
That was some **** Easy Company got put thru.
WWII German paras , Aussies in PNG, Scottish regiments at New Orleans whose discipline never broke under the most severe fire, French forces at Dunkirk who held the defensive perimeter knowing that they werent going to get evacuated to Britain - USMC in the pacific campaign - the list goes on and on. In the past three hundred years, most if not all western nations have produced units of note and repute.
Airsofters...Hands down. Those though guys are our future.
Yep they raped and killed far more Chinese than we could ever hope to.
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