The Russian invasion of Georgia was much more minor compared to Soviet Union's all-out invasion of Afghanistan.Originally Posted by Russianlynxy
Afghans today describe how everyone group was united against SU but only the talibans and extremists fight the western coalition. They say everyone knows they are there for very different reasons.
The Talibans were an movement that came to existence in the 1990's as an opposing force to the Mujahedin warlords that had defeated the Soviet Union. Hence why the allegience between the Talibans and Osama Bin Laden was not crystal clear and why among other things the Americans asked them to hand him over.
Jimmy Carter was President 1977-1981.
The afghan war played a role in bringing down the imperialists, however if it was a minor thing among many other or if played a major part is up for debate.
Which is why people who are worried about Obama should relax a little bit.
Wut.
That's a Pakistani officer
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Joanne Herring in Afghanistan with the Mujahideen.She would play a pivotal role in arming the Mujahideen against the Soviets.
lol? Think you need to do abit more research on that one.
it wasn't even an invasion. It was as much of an invasion as Russia invading Georgia in 2008...
The Afghan government asked the SU for assistance against an inevitable Taliban overthrow. Ideologically, for the SU this meant "spreading communism"
Practically it was:
- cutting off heroin and other drug traffic which was flowing like a river from Afghanistan into Central Asia SU.
- Securing Borders, after all, the SU did border Afghanistan. And an instable Afghanistan on your borders is not politically expedient.
The USSR would have won, and the Americans weren't even interested in helping until 1985-1986 when the Carter Administration came to power along with Zbigniew Bzrzinski (foreign policy advisor at the time) who convinced the Congress that helping terrorists would tangle the Soviets in a needless war. He said this would be another "link in the chain" to putting an end to the USSR and liberating Central Europe.
Interestingly enough, today old Zbig and his son Marek are in Obama's administration... hmm.
Famous pics of him and Bin Laden
Yet Lost the war
what the fuck with all of you? that was thread where people discussing Spetsnaz actions in Afghan campaign, you turned it into usual retard kindergarten.
idiocy.
The VDV (airborne troops) and Soviet Air Assault Troops (DShB) were routinely referred to by the mujahideen as “spetsnaz” or “commandos”.
Similarity in operating procedures contributed to the confusion. The spetsnaz brought a new type of warfare to the mujahideen that brought them
to the brink of defeat by the summer of 1986…hence the title of the thread. The muj were demoralized and on their heels.
Without foreign assistance and the Soviet decision by 1985 to “wind down” the war, the future of Afghanistan and our own (US) would have been very different.
Hist2004
Where there any Russian Marines that served in Afghanistan ? Although i think i read it somewhere (probably from this thread) that they were not. Off-topic a bit but does anyone have any information regarding recent combat operations that the Marines have done like in Chechnya for example ? Thanks. I would like to know more about them especially their capabilities.
Yeah sure. how many did u killed on that mission ? must be in thousands with no losses on your side. stp telling lies .One time, our guys from the "Muslim batallion" had destroyed a large reinforcement caravan on the Pakistani territory. The caravan started its way in Parachinar and was supposed to reach the Afghan mujahedins in the South Eastern part of Nangrahar province.
The caravan consisted of 12 large trucks. 7 of them were filled with ammunition, and the rest consisted of Pakistani soldiers. Pakistanis wanted to help start a major offensive in Nangrahar.
One of the informants tipped us about the incoming caravan. Since the operation was very critical, the Jelalabad batallion combined forces with the Baraki batallion. The central command gave the order to engage the caravan on the Afghani territory. But Capt. Rustam Tursunkulov, the commander of the 2nd Group/1st Co. of the "Muslim Batallion", asked permission to engage the enemy inside Pakistan. Eventually he received the permission.
He received 2 Mi-8, and 4 Mi-24 helicopters. Early in the morning, two groups under his command boarded Mi-8's, while Mi-24 provided cover.
They flew very low, hiding behind the mountains. While the assault group went after the caravan, the second assault group from the Baraki batallion had set up an ambush on the caravan's destination, where they could engage the mujahedins.
Once the column was in sight, the helicopters started their attack. They destroyed one truck after another. Pakistanis were surprised ****less!
Then two groups dropped in the area to clear it, destroy the wounded, and check for documents.
Later, three groups from Baraki batallion destroyed a large mujahedin unit in Khaydar Jar.
Rustam Tursunkulov had received a Medal for Courage for this operation. He's a good friend of mine, he presented me the Pakistani bayonet which he took during that Op. They've taken lots of souvenirs there.
BTW, there is a video footage of that mission. Very impressive!
Regards,
16 OBr SpN
Thank you for destroying that thread you ****ing morons. Yeah you know exactly who I'm refering to.
There are no proofs of soviets killing tens of thousands of pakistani soldiers on pakistani soil. atleast not from any of my army relatives, these are only stories.
1. last time 16 OBr SpN was here is in 2006.
2. he's proven to be a member of OBrSpN and BTDT, so his opinion in any given time are much trustworthy than yours.
3. application of intellect usually helps to avoid post stupid things.
have a nice day.
Whenever they tried to fly into paksitani air space most of the time they were intercepted and some times shot down.
you seems to be a Pakistani Defence specialist in times of Soviet-Afghanistan conflict. please share with us your valuable opinion on that matter.
have a nice day to u too and u are not te one to decide if i am trustworthy or not. may be he is in OBrSpN and BTDT but killing of pakistani soldiers in pakistani in several hundreds with out suffering losses is un believeable.
damn i just found out about this interestnig thread and it seems it will be closed soon..
thank you for your miserable trolling
Dont want to derail the thread just pointing out to the fact.
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