UK Radicals warned of treason risk

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Islamist radicals who express support for terrorism may face treason charges, the Attorney General's Office has said.

Lord Goldsmith and the Director of Public Prosecutions Ken Macdonald have discussed action against three individuals, a spokeswoman said.

The Crown Prosecution Service's head of anti-terrorism will meet Scotland Yard officers in the next few days.

Omar Bakri Mohammed, Abu Izzadeen and Abu Uzair are all expected to come under scrutiny.

'No decision'

The spokeswoman for the Attorney-General's Office said it was not clear at this stage whether there was enough evidence to bring charges.

Officials will be looking at broadcast and published comments as well as speeches and sermons made by the trip to followers.

"No decision on charges has been made yet. The CPS will be looking at it to see if any offences have been committed," she said.

Possible charges which will be considered include the common law offences of treason and incitement to treason.

Omar Bakri Mohammed is a London-based cleric for the al-Muhajiroun group.

On Friday while announcing new measures to clamp down on extremism, Prime Minister Tony Blair said that this group's successor organisation, the Saviour Sect, would be outlawed.

Mr Bakri caused controversy when he said he would not inform police if he knew Muslims were planning a bomb attack in the UK.

He also expressed support for Muslims who attacked British troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"For Muslims there, they have a duty to fight occupiers, whether they are British soldiers or American soldiers," he told Channel 4 News.

'Smell the coffee'

British-born Abu Izzadeen, a spokesman for the group al-Ghurabaa (the Strangers) has declined to condemn the 7 July London bombings.

He told BBC2's Newsnight the bombings were "mujahideen activity" which would make people "wake up and smell the coffee".

Abu Uzair, a former member of al-Muhajiroun, told the same programme that the September 11 attacks in the US were "magnificent".

He said Muslims had previously accepted a "covenant of security" which meant they should not resort to violence in the UK because they were not under threat there.

"We don't live in peace with you any more, which means the covenant of security no longer exists," he said.


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Glad to see they're doing this. I'm guessing foreign radicals will be deported, while British radicals will be jailed (since they can not be deported).

Looks like the bombings has definately made the British government "wake up and smell the coffee".

[Fee Fi Fo Fum]

Indeed.

[steel bonnet]

Ahh the next quest if it`s Treason,how are they going to be punished?
A jail sentence with Parole a few years down of we bringing back Capitial Punishment for them?

I opt for the later personnally. Though we haven`t done that to the captured British Taliban fighters yet,so this just butch talk & no bite really?

Also anyone else noted how the British media moreso Ch4 & the BBC seem to be going to the Muslim side rather than being impartial.
I`ve not seen/heard anything to the contray that attacks against muslims are up & where l live there is a large muslim community.
It`s the one`s who support the terrorists now using everything within British law to make themselves innoccent & that the Muslim community ar once again being victimized.

be nice when we get the day ALL holders of british citizenship claim to be BRITISH rather than all these sub groups they seem to hold higher than being British.
We`re turning into the US,there`s not many who say "I`m an American",it`s usually "I`m 1/4 this & 1/2 that & 1/2 this".

You belong to a country or you don`t belong,nothing else matters. You emmigrate you leave the old life behind & become 100% whatever the new country IS. It`s simple really,humans alas complicate it all.

SB

[Geezah]

I'm all for capital punishment, it's been a while since we last enjoyed a good hanging.

The point you made about claiming one nationality, this is soemwhat hard for my father as he was natralized(US) in 95 but has never lived in the US, so what should he do?

[steel bonnet]

Geezah,
Did your father get posted due to Military ? If yes then he`s US for was doing it for his nation.

If no,well if he frequantley hoped Nationals/Nationalities,well that is a conundrum isn`t it.

I see your point. If he setled in another nation even though born US,well which ever nation he settled down in is his nationality in that sense.
If never settled down,well the UN is his true home......LOL

SB

[Geezah]

Geezah,
Did your father get posted due to Military ? If yes then he`s US for was doing it for his nation.

If no,well if he frequantley hoped Nationals/Nationalities,well that is a conundrum isn`t it.

I see your point. If he setled in another nation even though born US,well which ever nation he settled down in is his nationality in that sense.
If never settled down,well the UN is his true home......LOL

SB

No, my old man is the son of a GI, one of the fruits from "over here, over paid, over sexed", but when my father traced his father to Indiana in 78, he was told he wasn't entitled to citizenship. I found out in 95 that this was not true and he was natralized that same year(but as I said never lived in the US).

[Resevoir Hogs]

Good on the British for going this way. If your a citizen of a country and you actively support hostilities against that nation you are committing treason and should be hanged. I'm all for having immigration, but make it clear if you come here and are engaged in these activities you are not welcome.

[NicNZ]

Interesting how the British respond to terrorist acts by treating them as criminal acts, whereas the United States responds to terrorist attacks by declaring war on other countries. Could write a thesis on that.

[Resevoir Hogs]

How do you figure that NicNZ, the UK has thousands of troops deployed in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Hardly what I would call just a law enforcement response.

[Resevoir Hogs]

Furthermore these attacks were conducted by British citizens from a minority group. Not by foreign nationals of Saudi Arabia and Yemen like in 9/11. So that would mean of course the law enforcement of Britain would take the lead in the response for the two transit attacks. It should also be noted that bomb disposal assets from the UK armed forces were used domestically during these incidents.

If what you're trying to get at is that the US overreacts and the UK is the more level headed one then all it is is two measured responses for two different types of attacks. One from Afghanistan and one from Leeds.

Although the British do have more experience with dealing with terrorism at home than the US does. They've done an excellent job in tracking these bastards. Whether we brand terrorists as just plain criminals or as enemy combatants makes little difference to how they operate. To me they are both. And using all tools at a nations disposal to combat them is vital.

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Ahh the next quest if it`s Treason,how are they going to be punished?

Simple, send them back to the countries they love. Like Iran or Saudi Arabia or Syria or Pakistan. Ironically most British Muslims have never left Britian, they dont know exactly how much they are resented by there other muslims around the world. They think they are "oppressed" now, just wait till there plane arrives in Iran and they can only speak english.