Reply With QuoteIf u speek about the movie enemy at the gate, this major Koenig never exist ! pure fiction !Originally Posted by Sidka
Vassily Zaitsev Story and pictures
The most famous sniper of them all, although not the highest scorer, was Zaitsev in Batyuk's division, who, during the October Revolution celebrations, raised his tally of kills to 149 Germans. (He had promised to achieve 150, but was one short.) The highest scorer, identified only as `Zikan', killed 224 Germans by 20 November. For the 62nd Army-, the taciturn Zaitsev, a shepherd from the foothillsof the Urals, represented much more than any sporting hero. News of further additions to his score passed from mouth to mouth along the front.
Zaitsev, whose name means hare in Russian, was put in charge of training young snipers, and his pupils became known as zaichata, or `leverets'. This was the start of the `sniper movement' in the 62nd Armv. Conferences were arranged to spread the doctrine of `sniperism', and exchange ideas on technique. The Don and SouthWest Fronts took up the `sniper movement', and produced their star shots, such as Sergeant Passar of 21st Armvy. Especially proud of his head shots, he was credited with 103 kills.
Non-Russian snipers were singled out for praise: Kucherenko, a Ukrainian, who killed nineteen Germans, and an Uzbek from 169th Rifle Division who killed five in three days. In 64th Army, Sniper Kovbasa (the Ukrainian word for sausage) worked from a network of at least three trenches, one for sleeping and two fire trenches, all connected. In addition, he dug fake positions out to the side in front of neighbouring platoons. In these he installed white flags attached to levers, whigh he agitate from a distance with cords. Korbasa proudly claimed that as soon as the German saw one of his little white flags waving, he could not help raising himself in his trench to take a better look, and shout `Rus, , komm, komm!' Kovbasa then got him from an angle. Damelovin r 61st Rifle Regiment also dug a false trench, and fashioned scarecrow figures Nvith bits of Red Army equipment. He then waited for inexperienced German soldiers to shoot at them. Four of them fell victim. In 13th Guards Rifle Division Senior Sergeant Dolvinin, installed in an attic, picked off the crews of an enemy machine-gun, and a field gun. The most prized targets, howeverr, remained German artillery spotters. `For two days [Corporal Studentov] tracked an observation officer and killed him Nvith the first shot.' Studentov vowed to raise his score to 170 Germans from 124 by the anniversarv of the Revolution.
All the star snipers had their own techniques and favourite hiding places. `Noble sniper' Ilin, who was credited with `185 Fritzes', sometimes used an old barrel, or pipe, as a hide. Ilin, a commissar from a Guards rifle regiment, operated on the Red October sector. `Fascists should know the strength of weapons in the hands of Soviet supermen,' he proclaimed, promising to train ten other snipers.
Some Soviet sources claim that the Germans brought in the chief of their sniper school to hunt down Zaitsev, but that Zaitscv outwitted him. Zaitsev, after a hunt of several days, apparently spotted his hide under a sheet of corrugated iron, and shot him dead. The telescopic sight off his prey's rifle, allegedly Zaitsev's most treasured trophy, is still exhibited in the Moscow armed forces museum, but this dramatic story remains essentially unconvincing. It is worth noting that there is absolutely no mention of it in any of the reports to Shcherbakov, even though almost every aspect of `sniperism' `vas reported with relish.
Vassili Zaitsev - 400 kills (149 Kills at the battle of Stalingrad)
Is Sniper Rifle
Ps:Anyone ave pic of Major Koenig?Cant find one...
Re: Vassily Zaitsev Story and pictures
If u speek about the movie enemy at the gate, this major Koenig never exist ! pure fiction !
i think every 1 nows who He is..hahah
Are you sure?you can read this story on hero of soviet union website,sniper of russia website... look
It was an early morning when he began to watch the new Nazi super-sniper. Zaitsev camouflaged himself in position as if he wore Fortunatus' cap, not a helmet with a green veil.
He wondered where the sniper from Berlin was. Vassily knew the ways of Nazi snipers; he could easily distinguish more experienced shots from novices judging by the manner of their shooting and camouflaging. He could also see which of them were cowards and which were stubborn and resolute enemies. But the character of his new adversary was a mystery to him. It was hard to determine where the Nazi sniper had taken his position. Evidently the now arrival changed his positions frequently and watched out for Vassily too. And then Zaitsev learned that the enemy had broken the telescopic sight of his friend's rifle and wounded another Soviet sniper. The two men were experienced snipers who had often gained the upper hand in hard engagements with the enemy. There was no doubt that they had encountered the Nazi super-sniper they had been looking for.
The duel went on for several days and both sides watched it closely. Unlike the German who worked single-handed, Zaitsev had a partner, Nikolai Kulikov. They studied each detail of the terrain, took into account each of the adjoining streets, the ruins of buildings, the wreckage of cars - all those places the enemy could use as a shelter.
The Nazi sniper began with an attempt to cheat his Russian counterpart with the use of a childish trick - he stuck out a spade with a helmet on it. But Zaitsev was too clever for that. So the first day they passed in attempts to dupe each other. On the second day the German hid himself in the ruins and began to wait patiently for his chance. But Zaitsev and his partner also had nerves of iron.
Surveying every square meter of enemy territory with his binoculars, Zaitsev noticed a steel sheet leaning on the corner of a house and covered with pieces of brick. That was an ideal den for a sniper. But how could the enemy be forced to reveal himself? Now the time has come for Zaitsev to test how strong the enemy's nerves were. He put his glove on a stick and stuck it out of his trench. The German swallowed bait and made a shot. However, Zaitsev could not get the sniper from his position, so he had to crawl to another place. But when he reached the new shelter he discovered that it was no good: the sun was shining right into his eyes. So he had to wait again.
The duel ended on the fourth day. Zaitsev's partner made a shot to attract the German's attention to himself, but the German ignored his trick. A few hours later, when Kulikov raised his helmet over the trench the enemy's nerves gave and he fired. Kulikov reacted with a groan as if he had been wounded. The German believed him, stuck his head out of his shelter and caught Zaitsev's bullet right into his forehead.
The duel depicted in 'Enemy at the Gates' was largely fictional. No Major Konig (or Koenig) opposed Zaitsev in Stalingrad. However, Zaitsev was credited with several hundred kills before being disabled by a land mine later in the war.
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Thorvald/Koenig doesn't exist. At least some of the most accomplished military historians and a few others have not been able to turn up any evidence to support the myth. Its also been discussed to death.
Check out the Axis history forums or fieldgrau.com
oh good thx for the link ry for that guys was sure that very happening my bad
an interesting snipers kills table : http://www.snipercentral.com/snipers.htm
and more about the debate : http://www.snipercentral.com/konig.htm
he doesnt look like jude law at all!!!
You noticed that too. :Phe doesnt look like jude law at all!!!
Hehe anyway only im know the truth..and more about the debate : http://www.snipercentral.com/konig.htm
here a other one:
Senior Sergeant Roza Shanina, with 54 confirmed kills (actual kills were usually very much higher), wearing the medal of the Order of Glory 2nd and 3rd Class.
Well as a german, seeing a guy who shot 400 of my buddies, would be a plaisure to shoot him also. What about german snipers ?
I don't want to start a flame war...so I hope I can get this straight without misunderstandings.
I doubt the "confirmed" kills from russian snipers in WWII. Not because they were bad shots, they actually had great snipers, but because of the regime pushing these story to propaganda use.
German sniper kills had to be confirmed by eyewitnesses and had to be written down into the sniper book (the actual number is about twice the confirmed kills, because attack kills and defensive kills are not listed in the sniper book).
Same for some finnish snipers, they killed lots of enemies, but if they killed them by sniper fire is not really confirmed.
The second man to Simo Häyhä killed some hundret enemies by Suomi M.31 SMG. Nothing confirmed, though.
Source? Do you have any evidence that suggests the confirmed kills of these snipers were tampered with? Other than speculation? If not, then your argument is futile.
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