Knives, bayonets, multi tools, daggers and other pointy implements.

[buckstix]

Hello folks,

I have been collecting a RARE and almost totally unheard of hand forged US Military fighting knife called a Van Adstine double edge daggger. It was made from W.W.I to W.W.II by a man here in Wisconsin by the name of Robert Van Adestine.



For the last 3 years I posted $300 rewards for anyone that found me examples of these RARE knives and I now have the largest collection of Van Adestine knives in the country. I still offer the $300 reward if you find one for me.



If you wish to learn more about these RARE knives and see more pictures, visit my web site.

http://www.yostaction.com/vanadestine.html

Robert Van Adestine also made hunting knives.

The $300 reward goes for the Hunting Knife also.



I believe there are still hundreds of Van Adestine knives out there to be discovered because he made them continuously for 65 years from 1895 until 1959. He lived and made hand forged knives at the very same time as William Scagel.

[buckstix]

Hello All,

here is some more updated information ..

Robert Van Adestine and his father Andrew Van Adestine have some how been "missed" by history. This is very sad because they were unsung contributor's to our US soldiers, filling their need for Military Fighting knives at the beginning of the World Wars when fighting knives were in short supply.

I have been actively seeking them out for over 3 years now, and have found many, but it has been very difficult to locate something that is virtually "unknown" to the knife collector world.

I think that the book that is being offered will help collector's to locate and identify these lost treasures. The book is like a treasure hunters guide for the military fighting knife collector.

It's like this ....

Robert Van Adestine made hand forged knives from 1895 to 1959 - William Scagel made knives from 1891 to 1963. Their hand forged knife making overlapped 64 years. Scagel knives sell today for tens of thoudands of dollars, yet the Van Adestine knives remain unknown.



Perhaps someday history will correct itself and give the Van Adestine name the long overdue recognition that it deserves. What's really strange is that the World Book Encyclopedia used a photo of Robert Van Adestine's Dagger in their publication from 1947 until 1982 - for over "35 years" - see below.

If WORLD BOOK heard of VANADESTINE knives back then, how come no one else has?

see my link for more info. http://www.yostaction.com/vanadestine.html



Your comments are welcome ... If you have one of these Van Adestine fighting or hunting knives in your collection, please contact me. I would like to add the specifications to my on-going study.


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[Adam Wilhelm]

I don´t have any Adestine knife but i find it very interesting. The blade shape of the dagger is quite unusual.

[oldsoak]

- as an aside, double edged knives were sold by the Hudson Bay Company to the
trappers and the like in the 19th cent - who favoured them because if one edge got blunt, you could use the other. Might sound odd to us nowadays, but if you could afford only one knife that had to do more than one job, it makes sense. They werent small items either. They were sold as blades - you put your own handle on. They looked quite similar to this - they were 10 inches by 2.5 inches and quarter inch thick.
Looking at the VA fighting knife, its very robustly made and I wonder what the blade grind is - any more info ? Was it purpose designed or was it an adaptation from an existing design ?

[buckstix]

Robert Van Adestine fashioned his double edge fighting knife design after a Roman short sword. It was designed primarily for combat use for wwi and wwii. The blade grind is hollow ground, both sides, both edges.

[Kommbat]

Benchmade ERT1

The Benchmade 10105 ERT1, Emergency Rescue Tool-1, is a compact and lightweight device equipped with a V-shaped blade, a windowbreaker, light and a carry clip.











The V-shaped hook blade is made out of a carbone steel with a large portion of cobalt. This for keeping the edge sharp over a longer period of use and it helps to keep rust of the blade.



Out of the box the edge is extremely sharp. The thump stud is tall enough to be operated with a working-glove. You can change the side of the stud very easy with a torx-driver. The lock-back mechanism lock’s the blade very rigid without any play. The “tip” of the curved blade is rounded so you don’t have to worry that you could hurt the person you want to rescue or arrest.











Cutting soft material is a breeze with it. A seatbelt or a coil of 5 para-cords is not an issue for his blade. So I cutted a double layer of leather and a Cordura duty-belt with a polythene core by side several other stuff. Both were no issue too. But to cut he belt you had to apply a quiet amount of force.

















On the bottom side you will find the spring loaded windowbreaker. When a window is hit with the tailcap, the cover will be pushed inward for about 1/3 of an inch before the strong spring loaded striker-tip hit’s the window. Breaking car-windows is very easy with it even if you don’t hit the corners of the window. The kinetic energy of the striker is very powerful.











There is a little LED-light pointing toward the blade. This helps a lot when you have to work with the ERT1 in the dark and you may need your other hand. The rubber switch seams durable. The batteries are included. I dropped the ERT1 into a sink for one minute to see how it will work when wet. As I took it out it worked for about 8 on/off operations and after that it stayed dark. So I thought about taking it apart to dry the lamp-system. Well, you need 3 different torx, one very tiny, one Allen-head and a Philips-driver to get it apart. Since I don’t had that small torx-drivers I wanted see if it dries from itself. After about 10 minutes I could switch the light on again. But it would not go off when I pushed the button. After several tries to switch off the LED the Battery died after aprox. 3 hours.











Normally I am a 100% „tip-up-carry“ guy but the carry-clip will just allow you a „tip-down-carry“. Butt his is not bothering me on this tool since a „tip-up-carry“ would just rune your pants when carried in a front-pocket. The blade would open during the draw like a „wave-type“ blade and cut your pocket. It´s not a problem for a south-paw to carry. You just have to switch the thump-stud to the other side and you are good to go.

What I really miss on this thing is a lanyard-hole.







The ERT1 is a very stable tool. Sharp blade, powerfull glas striker and a bright light. But if you plan to use it in a maritime environment and you have to count on a light, then you better pack another torch as a backup.











For me the ERT1 is not just another rescue-tool. I my opinion it is a little more. If you work in law enforcement and you want a „car-entry-device“ but you are already humping around with a truckload of gear. Or you pull plain clothes duty and you can’t carry large tools. Then the ERT will help a lot to extract the subject of your arrest warrant out of his car, right trough the window by the „Carp-Hold“, even if the doors are looked.





I hope this review is useful for you.

[ZoneOne]

Thanks for the detailed review. It looks like an essential piece of kit for anyone working as a First Responder or Law Enforcement.

[LillaMy]

I want your gloves..

[Kommbat]

It has its pro´s and con´s but for a rescue-service or some work in LE it is a good piece of gear.

The Gloves are Mechanix Heavy-Duty gloves.
I will post a review of them soon.

[Mister_manji]

why would you buy a knife good only for cutting line and straps?

[BillySing]

why would you buy a knife good only for cutting line and straps?

It's not a knife. It's an Emergency Rescue Tool. It's good for breaking glass and it has a flashlight. There's little point in criticizing a tool that is designed to break glass and cut seatbelts because it lacks versatility. It's like wondering why a watch only tells you the time and why it won't make you a waffle and tell you the weather in Burkina Faso.

It also won't get you into trouble with the cops. Imagine if Inspector Plod peered into your vehicle and saw a monstrous knife sitting in the glove box?

"Oh no Officer, you've got the wrong idea, It's there just in case I need to cut my seat belt"

Good Review, Kommbat!

[TacoDelRio]

Good response, Billy. LOL!

[Kommbat]

why would you buy a knife good only for cutting line and straps?

I see most knifes as tool´s made for different tasks.

A fishing-knife is perfect for slicing the fish....is it a good fighter ?
Like a A-F-dagger ?
Is it a good camp knife like a CS Recon-scout ?
What about beeing the second-to-non EDC like a CQC7 ?

When you need a fighter,camp-knife or fishing-knife then the ERT1 is not for you.

But if you need tool that can brake glas, make light and cut soft material without hurting a person close to it, even when in a hurry ?
Then I woud say the ERT1 could be the way to go.

On other sites were I posted this review peopel told me that they keep it in there car´s just in case they have to free themself.


@Billy: I want that knife that tells me the weather in Burkina Faso. But just for Burkina Faso

[hattori_gonzo]

I'm thinkin of :
SOG Seal Pup or Gerber LMF II ASEK too

What are your suggestions?

[pifferm]

I ordered a Gerber and I'm very glad.