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[JGXL836]

are you sure?

i watched a documentry filmed about them and it was pre 2006 so rather old but they had their own badge, they went on their own patrol, they had their own office

after all they serve as one unit

also if they were just a social movement i dont think they would have idf uniform, m16, uzi, sniper rifles and all other infantry kit

i dont really know though what sepereates a social movement from a military unit at least not in israel

Yes, I'm sure.

They wanted to volunteer, and they were partly accepted and given some duties (and staff, of course). However there was never such IDF unit Allya btn, nor Allya brd. Some kind of small reservist sniper unit apparently called "Carmel Yarok", comprising of veteran ex-USSR snipers, took part in 2LW and probably in "Cast Lead".

Do you know any office of the Golani brigade, or, let's say, 890th btn?
Office is civilian, military units usually has headquarters in military bases. What about "Gdud Allya" office? Was it in a military base?

[Amiel]

Carmel Yarok actually does sound familiar, in connection to this topic. That's probably what it was. Besides, a "Brigade" refers to a force of thousands of soldiers.

[JGXL836]

Anyway, that's an Israeli sniper. Probably reservist, maybe ex-USSR:

'Cast Lead'

[AirZone]

I just want to clear some mistakes... Its true Egoz is under Golani but its more in the budget area and training in its facilities than anything else. Egoz is more north command. I dont know if I can tell more because of opsec. You can say the same about Duvdevan its more central command than paratroopers.

[Amiel]

So the new unit being established 'under Givati' would probably be analogous to Egoz and Duvdevan in regards to it being more a part of the Southern Command than, say, Givati?

[AirZone]

So the new unit being established 'under Givati' would probably be analogous to Egoz and Duvdevan in regards to it being more a part of the Southern Command than, say, Givati?

Not sure. But I do think that Givati doesnt have enough money to fiance a new SF unit. If you ask me the southern command is hungry for a SF unit like her sister commands, and they are using Givati as a platform for it.

[Amiel]

Not sure. But I do think that Givati doesnt have enough money to fiance a new SF unit. If you ask me the southern command is hungry for a SF unit like her sister commands, and they are using Givati as a platform for it.

Yeah, that thought had crossed my mind as well. It really blows my mind how small of a budget Givati has, considering its operational integrity and how well the Brigade has performed in the past few years.

[Gomel]

Not having a high budget is not analogous to having bad gear or lower quality training. The USMC has a much lower budget than other services in the US, yet they are the first ones you would call. Paras have it good with their nice headquarters and soft bunkbeds, while Givati sleep in the dirt and imo they are all the better for it and have proven to be excellent fighters.

[xnir]

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IAF in the repulonap.hu Hungarian air show

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where's wally (xnir)?

well... I was on the wing taking photos...

[RoyB]

I just want to clear some mistakes... Its true Egoz is under Golani but its more in the budget area and training in its facilities than anything else. Egoz is more north command. I dont know if I can tell more because of opsec. You can say the same about Duvdevan its more central command than paratroopers.

Golani is also Northern Command.
Egoz is more Golani than Duvdevan or Maglan is Paratroopers.
There is more to be said about it, and Golani is more than just a sorting body for Egoz.
In this case, the new unit would only use Givati's infrastructures, and gather people from it. Egoz is more than that.

[bigisraeli]

The video is from 2003, but still interesting. It's in Russian with English subtitles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jAUygRBZw
It was funny to see my former captain there, Roman. We refereed to him as קודקוד סטאלין, or Codcod (commander in radio) Stalin

[AirZone]

Golani is also Northern Command.
Egoz is more Golani than Duvdevan or Maglan is Paratroopers.
There is more to be said about it, and Golani is more than just a sorting body for Egoz.
In this case, the new unit would only use Givati's infrastructures, and gather people from it. Egoz is more than that.

I disagree, about the Egoz issue (completely agree with the givati one). There has been some changes.. im not gonna post it here, but mabye PM would do if you would like. Lets say Egoz had so much problem with too many "parents"...

[AirZone]

Not having a high budget is not analogous to having bad gear or lower quality training. The USMC has a much lower budget than other services in the US, yet they are the first ones you would call. Paras have it good with their nice headquarters and soft bunkbeds, while Givati sleep in the dirt and imo they are all the better for it and have proven to be excellent fighters.

Word But Golani is still the best

[tanks_alot]

I disagree, about the Egoz issue (completely agree with the givati one). There has been some changes.. im not gonna post it here, but mabye PM would do if you would like. Lets say Egoz had so much problem with too many "parents"...

If you believe something is too sensitive to post here, than it's also too sensitive for a PM.

[AirZone]

If you believe something is too sensitive to post here, than it's also too sensitive for a PM.

Im not sure if it is sensitive, but you'r right. I will keep my mouth shut.