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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    Bayonets were certainly used during the War of Independence.

    I actually assumed that the Uzi was the reason (or at lesst one of the reasons) that IDF infantry ceased to use bayonets. Since (in my mind) bayonets and SMGs don't seem to mix
    I also think the bayonets were phased out from the IDF because they did not mix well with the Uzi.
    But the first UZIs had a lug for a bayonet and were provided to the IDF soldiers with a bayonet, but I ignore what was the extend of them in the army.

    BTW, the bayonet is also useful because it is dissuasive as it is simply frightening. It could be an extra for IDF soldiers positioned at road blocks for example. Anyway, I think the Tavor has no lug for a bayonet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    I also think the bayonets were phased out from the IDF because they did not mix well with the Uzi.
    But the first UZIs had a lug for a bayonet and were provided to the IDF soldiers with a bayonet, but I ignore what was the extend of them in the army.

    BTW, the bayonet is also useful because it is dissuasive as it is simply frightening. It could be an extra for IDF soldiers positioned at road blocks for example. Anyway, I think the Tavor has no lug for a bayonet.
    Uh-huh... now imagine how it's gonna look on CNN...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDF_TANKER View Post
    Uh-huh... now imagine how it's gonna look on CNN...
    This is another problem.

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    I admire the IDF but not blindly so. This is an area in which they are simply wrong, both from the tactical and psychological PsOV, IMO.

    I'm pretty certain that the platoon of Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders who, heavily outnumbered and down to their literal last rounds, cut their way out of an ambush with a screaming bayonet charge in '05 were plenty glad to be both equipped to fix bayonets and trained to use them in battle.

    Sidebar: The assault rifle to which the bayonets were affixed was the L85A2, a bullpup design similar in size & configuration to the standard-barreled Tavor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilo 62 View Post
    I admire the IDF but not blindly so. This is an area in which they are simply wrong, both from the tactical and psychological PsOV.
    I'm pretty certain that the platoon of Argyll & Sutherland Highlander who, heavily outnumberted and down to their literal last rounds, cut their way out of an ambush with a screaming bayonet charge in '05 were plenty glad to be equipped to fix bayonets and trained to use them in battle. Sidebar: The assault rifle to which the bayonets were affixed was the L85A2, a bullpup design similar in size & configuration to the standard-barreled Tavor.
    The bayonet offers for sure real advantages, but the culture linked to this weapon existed in the IDF only for a short period of time. Since then, it was completely lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggbird View Post
    Thanks Eitan88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post

    For occasions just like this


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    great vid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    great vid.
    Saw that vid in much better quality during my service, could literally see them placing the IED and fiddling around with it... then the Spike came for a visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    Saw that vid in much better quality during my service, could literally see them placing the IED and fiddling around with it... then the Spike came for a visit.
    very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post



    where is your post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    where is your post?
    I don't understand your question. You replied to it.

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