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    Hi,

    Im an 18 year old aussie currently going through the Aliyah process and I had a few questions that my shaliach is unable to answer.

    I am colour blind, but otherwise completely healthy, so I assume that I will receive a 82 rating. Which units would I be eligible for? Namely the Big 3, Duvdevan and the Gadsars of the infantry brigades.

    Also, while serving what would I do whenever we receive time off? What do other lone soldiers do for accomodation/entertainment on leave?

    Next, what would the promotion schedule look like for a motivated soldier?

    Finally, is there much opportunity for exchange with other militaries? Does this traditionally only happen to people who sign on for extra time after their conscription period?

    Any help you can provide would be great.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1022 View Post
    Hi,

    Im an 18 year old aussie currently going through the Aliyah process and I had a few questions that my shaliach is unable to answer.

    I am colour blind, but otherwise completely healthy, so I assume that I will receive a 82 rating. Which units would I be eligible for? Namely the Big 3, Duvdevan and the Gadsars of the infantry brigades.

    Also, while serving what would I do whenever we receive time off? What do other lone soldiers do for accomodation/entertainment on leave?

    Next, what would the promotion schedule look like for a motivated soldier?

    Finally, is there much opportunity for exchange with other militaries? Does this traditionally only happen to people who sign on for extra time after their conscription period?

    Any help you can provide would be great.

    Cheers.
    Congratulations on the Aliyah.

    Being color blind will disable access to Shaldag, Shayetet, Matkal, 669, Pilots Course, though I think you can still try out for Chovlim. I'm pretty sure you will be able to try out for the gadsar gibbushim, but I'll let someone who was in a gadsar answer this.

    Being a lone solider, you have a few options for your time off: 1) Live in a kibbutz which the army pays for. 2) Live in an army apartment, which you share with other lone soldiers. 3) Live in your own apartment, which the army subsidizes 1050ish shekel a month (you are also exempt from arnona). 4) Stay at a Beit Hachayal. They should explain this to you at your tzav rishon, and if they don't, make sure to ask them about your options. File to be a chayal boded as soon as possible (you can start at your tzav rishon) to make sure you don't miss out on any of your privileges. My personal suggestion is to live on a kibbutz in the beginning, and eventually find a few good friends and rent an apartment.

    There are two types of promotions in the IDF. First is the default time promotion, where a combat soldier becomes a corporal after training, a Sgt. after a year and two months and a First Sgt. after two years and four months. However, if you take commanders course or Sgt. course you will be promoted faster. NCO's are promoted based off of time. Officers are promoted based off of time and merit.

    There isn't much opportunity for exchange with other militaries unless you are an officer. Sure, you might do a training exercise here or there with a foreign military, but you won't be sent to green beret school anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amerikie View Post
    Congratulations on the Aliyah.

    Being color blind will disable access to Shaldag, Shayetet, Matkal, 669, Pilots Course, though I think you can still try out for Chovlim. I'm pretty sure you will be able to try out for the gadsar gibbushim, but I'll let someone who was in a gadsar answer this.

    Being a lone solider, you have a few options for your time off: 1) Live in a kibbutz which the army pays for. 2) Live in an army apartment, which you share with other lone soldiers. 3) Live in your own apartment, which the army subsidizes 1050ish shekel a month (you are also exempt from arnona). 4) Stay at a Beit Hachayal. They should explain this to you at your tzav rishon, and if they don't, make sure to ask them about your options. File to be a chayal boded as soon as possible (you can start at your tzav rishon) to make sure you don't miss out on any of your privileges. My personal suggestion is to live on a kibbutz in the beginning, and eventually find a few good friends and rent an apartment.

    There are two types of promotions in the IDF. First is the default time promotion, where a combat soldier becomes a corporal after training, a Sgt. after a year and two months and a First Sgt. after two years and four months. However, if you take commanders course or Sgt. course you will be promoted faster. NCO's are promoted based off of time. Officers are promoted based off of time and merit.

    There isn't much opportunity for exchange with other militaries unless you are an officer. Sure, you might do a training exercise here or there with a foreign military, but you won't be sent to green beret school anytime soon.
    Thankyou, Its disappointing I cant even attempt to join the supermen units, but Im very relieved I can attempt the gibush for the Gadsars. Do you know what sort of colour vision testing is used?

    Your advice on accommodation is very helpful. Expanding on your explanation of promotions, are commissions as an officer only awarded to soldiers who sign on extra time after their conscription period? Or, is it like the commanders course when you can be fast tracked based on merit?

    Also, can you provide any information on the sort of salary you receive if you commit to spend extra time after you initial service?

    Cheers,

    Sam
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    Sam,
    When will you arrive to Israel?
    I think you should go to the Israeli embassy in Australia and get some official answer for your questions.

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    In 94 there was at least one color blind in duvdevan...
    Anyway, me and my family will help you in any way we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pretorian669 View Post
    Sam,
    When will you arrive to Israel?
    I think you should go to the Israeli embassy in Australia and get some official answer for your questions. In 94 there was at least one color blind in duvdevan...
    Anyway, me and my family will help you in any way we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDF_TANKER View Post


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    That was really impressive.
    Those are the things that makes the difference between just a country and a nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armored_diplomacy View Post
    That was really impressive.
    Those are the things that makes the difference between just a country and a nation.
    thats true. Today we have a Iom Haatzmaut act in BA, I am going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    thats true. Today we have a Iom Haatzmaut act in BA, I am going.
    Thats very nice, good to hear youre going.
    Ill take a minute also here where Im.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armored_diplomacy View Post
    Thats very nice, good to hear youre going.
    Ill take a minute also here where Im.
    What you see in the video, is the day before Iom Hatzmauut, ( independence day), its called Iom HaZicaron ( remembrance day), we remember our fallen. A week before that, is Iom HaShoa ( Holocaust day) we also do that, we stop for a minute and remember. The act I am going is the independence day act, but we are going to have a minute of silence and respect also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1022 View Post
    Thankyou, Its disappointing I cant even attempt to join the supermen units, but Im very relieved I can attempt the gibush for the Gadsars. Do you know what sort of colour vision testing is used?

    Your advice on accommodation is very helpful. Expanding on your explanation of promotions, are commissions as an officer only awarded to soldiers who sign on extra time after their conscription period? Or, is it like the commanders course when you can be fast tracked based on merit?

    Also, can you provide any information on the sort of salary you receive if you commit to spend extra time after you initial service?

    Cheers,

    Sam
    Your eligibility for Officer's school is determined by psychological scores you receive when you go in for your Tzav Rishon (your kaba score) as well as a score that they assign to you of how suitable they think you are to be an officer. These scores, even though they are assigned to you prior to actual service, can haunt you all the way through so take your tzav rishon seriously. Exceptions can be made if your scores are low, but it depends on the people above you. Of course, your commanders must also deem you to be a good candidate for officers school in order to send you.
    Soldiers in keva (serving past their mandatory service) made (circa 2009) somewhere between 4000-6000 shekels a month depending on their job/place of service etc. That being said, if you serve say in a "normal" unit like the infantry or armour, or even in a gadsar, it is very, very difficult for lochamim to serve keva. Me and my tzevet tried to sign on for more but no dice. It's the sad fact that new soldiers are always being drafted who can be paid the normal, token paycheck as opposed to a salary so it is very rare for the army to keep anyone around for keva.
    In Cast Lead I finished my service the day after we entered Gaza. I was put into keva for 1 week, but since that was too expensive they switched me to being a miluimnik for the rest of the operation. Oh well.
    Anyways, point is, I would start worrying about this AFTER I was drafted and knew where I was serving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    What you see in the video, is the day before Iom Hatzmauut, ( independence day), its called Iom HaZicaron ( remembrance day), we remember our fallen. A week before that, is Iom HaShoa ( Holocaust day) we also do that, we stop for a minute and remember. The act I am going is the independence day act, but we are going to have a minute of silence and respect also.
    Thanks a lot, Climber; I hope everything was fine there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armored_diplomacy View Post
    Thanks a lot, Climber; I hope everything was fine there.
    Yes, everything was Ok, I saw people from old times, and it was........ cold in the Luna park......Thanks AD.

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